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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    But who cares about preseason ratings? Maclin could easily outscore him.

    I encourage you, in your next big money draft, take Maclin in the 2nd round, preseason rankings are meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai View Post
    12 teams, PPR.
    Really nice team in PPR. I also like Bradford as a backup for Manning.

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    Manningham will outscore both Dez and Maclin this year.

    PUT IT ON THE BOARD.

    We need a BG big board...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    I encourage you, in your next big money draft, take Maclin in the 2nd round, preseason rankings are meaningless.
    This discussion has absolutely nothing to do with a draft.

    Felix Jones could very well be an upgrade over Greene, and Maclin could easily match or outperform Nicks. For that reason alone, it isn't lopsided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Manningham will outscore both Dez and Maclin this year.

    PUT IT ON THE BOARD.

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    Well if this happens I have nothing to worry about because Nicks won't be outscoring either of them.

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    Since we haven't played a game, it has everything to do with a draft and player rankings.

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    thats terrible logic. so could mike sims walker but that trade would also be retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Well if this happens I have nothing to worry about because Nicks won't be outscoring either of them.
    What? Both Dez and Maclin are #2s, and I'm saying that Manningham is a better #2. Nicks will still ball out of his mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    What? Both Dez and Maclin are #2s, and I'm saying that Manningham is a better #2. Nicks will still ball out of his mind.
    Why do you think that Dez is a #2? The only reason I would take manningham over Maclin is because Eagles actually have weapons, Giants don't. Maclin>Manningham.

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    cancer > maclin

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    It wasn't cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Since we haven't played a game, it has everything to do with a draft and player rankings.
    So even if you prefer Maclin to Nicks, you wouldn't choose Maclin if both were available because player rankings?

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    anybody know how to change the amount of time allowed per pick in yahoo drafts? I can't find it >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Since we haven't played a game, it has everything to do with a draft and player rankings.
    ^ This.

    I'm not in that league, but it would be interesting to see where all the players got drafted, and if the guy getting Maclin could have just drafted him where he picked Nicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Why do you think that Dez is a #2? The only reason I would take manningham over Maclin is because Eagles actually have weapons, Giants don't. Maclin>Manningham.
    Because he's not a #1? When he actually outscores Austin, he'll be a #1. Sorry I'm not buying a guy with a lone 100 yard game as a number #1 over Miles Austin. He'll have to prove it, no one is giving it to him.

    As far as Manningham, with Nicks or Smith missing, he averages over 85 yards a game and a TD. He has, statistically speaking, the weakest CB matchup of any #2 in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    It wasn't cancer?
    You realize he still lost like 30 pounds in a week, right?

    I'll homer big 12 picks right along with anybody, but dude he was sick as fuck like 3 days ago lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Because he's not a #1? When he actually outscores Austin, he'll be a #1. Sorry I'm not buying a guy with a lone 100 yard game as a number #1 over Miles Austin. He'll have to prove it, no one is giving it to him.

    As far as Manningham, with Nicks or Smith missing, he averages over 85 yards a game and a TD. He has, statistically speaking, the weakest CB matchup of any #2 in the league.
    You realize there's a difference between being a #1 and scoring the most points, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    So even if you prefer Maclin to Nicks, you wouldn't choose Maclin if both were available because player rankings?
    No, I wouldn't, for a few reasons. One, I could possibly have both without having to reach. People who reach in fantasy are also known as, eh, losers. Also, I don't know more about football than the people who rank these kids. I'm not a fantasy savant, and I don't get paid 6 figures to do NFL research. I like Jahvid Best more than a couple of consensus top 10 backs, but I'm not drafting his ass top 10, and if you did, you're dumb as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    ^ This.

    I'm not in that league, but it would be interesting to see where all the players got drafted, and if the guy getting Maclin could have just drafted him where he picked Nicks.
    Ok but do I really need to clarify that if he passed on Maclin to draft Nicks only to then trade for him that he is retarded?

    If you think Ray Rice is going to be the #1 scorer in fantasy and he won't be available by your second pick, you take him. Even if it is first overall. It doesn't matter what the talking(writing?) heads say. They do their rankings as a guideline for how they think players will fare. Handcuffing yourself to their rankings is silly.

    And before you bring up the draft again, obviously you consider where a guy is going in the draft. If you think Ryan Mathews is going for 1500 yards and 20 TDs, you shouldn't take him in the first round because he will still be available for future picks. Just clarifying before my argument gets twisted again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    ^ This.

    I'm not in that league, but it would be interesting to see where all the players got drafted, and if the guy getting Maclin could have just drafted him where he picked Nicks.
    I probably (90%) could have gotten him. He was autodrafted. I wanted Felix because I believe he has very high potential (inb4homer), Heady said Nicks for Felix which is nowhere close, and I needed some sort of WR compensation since my WR beyond Top 3 is fucking terrible. I don't think the Jets will present much opportunity for Greene to score a lot of points. Probably should have done Shonne Green for Felix, but Heady wanted to milk me so I doubt he would have accepted it. We'll see how the trade pans out at the end of the year.

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