Fantasy Football 2011: Jumping the Gun

[Saga]

This is driving me nuts, who should I start week 1?

currently have:

WR - Calvin Johnson
WR - Brandon Marshall
RB - Jones-Drew
RB - Steven Jackson
TE - Aaron Hernandez
W/R (flex) - Austin Collie

Bench: Malcolm Floyd
Bench: Davone Bess
Bench: Tony Gonzalez
Bench: Percy Harvin
Bench: Danny Woodhead

Everyone's starting Percy Harvin, but San Diego's not going to give him much room to catch shit. I'd rather bank on Austin Collie playing better at Houston than Harvin at Qualcomm Stadium. Now just struggling with Floyd vs. Collie and Gonzalez vs. Hernandez.

[Saga]

This is driving me nuts, who should I start week 1?

currently have:

WR - Calvin Johnson
WR - Brandon Marshall
RB - Jones-Drew
RB - Steven Jackson
TE - Aaron Hernandez
W/R (flex) - Austin Collie

Bench: Malcolm Floyd
Bench: Davone Bess
Bench: Tony Gonzalez
Bench: Percy Harvin
Bench: Danny Woodhead

Everyone's starting Percy Harvin, but San Diego's not going to give him much room to catch shit. I'd rather bank on Austin Collie playing better at Houston than Harvin at Qualcomm Stadium. Now just struggling with Floyd vs. Collie and Gonzalez vs. Hernandez.

[Ketsuri]

No I was wondering why yall vetoed a semi fair trade. Vetoing purely based on when people are drafted in a league is dumb. It autodrafted Cutler before Eli. Would I be able to trade them straight up? No.

Edit: Oh you ment the other guy. I hadn't seen all that.

[Gadritan]

No I was wondering why yall vetoed a semi fair trade. Vetoing purely based on when people are drafted in a league is dumb. It autodrafted Cutler before Eli. Would I be able to trade them straight up? No.

I'm talking about the Jensmooch guy on there writing novels to justify a trade that the league thought was unfair. Like I said, it's not just about two teams improving, it's how it affects the league. That's why there's a veto system. Plus, he got really fucking personal on there with me.

It's not just based purely on where someone is drafted btw. Common sense plays a big role. People will tell you here right now, Amendola is not even close to equal in value to Ryan. That's the point.

[Ketsuri]

I'm talking about the Jensmooch guy on there writing novels to justify a trade that the league thought was unfair. Like I said, it's not just about two teams improving, it's how it affects the league. That's why there's a veto system. Plus, he got really fucking personal on there with me.

It's not just based purely on where someone is drafted btw. Common sense plays a big role. People will tell you here right now, Amendola is not even close to equal in value to Ryan. That's the point.

I totally agree that they are not equal in value. That is why we added the running backs. I do agree that he is taking it a bit too far. I just don't understand how people tell me my trade isn't fair when they have a trade on the chopping block with me that is even more unfair than the one vetoed.

Edit: And now the new trade is getting vetoed just because.

[Dizzy's]

Its a toss up for me on who I should start at my "flex" spot. My starting line up atm is:

QB Philip Rivers
RB LeSean McCoy
RB Ryan Mathews (flex spot)
WR Wes Welker
WR Vincent Jackson
TE Jermichael Finley
K Nate Kaeding
DEF Chargers

Bench:
QB Kevin Kolb
RB Ryan Grant
WR Lee Evans
WR Marques Colston
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
K Matt Bryant
DEF Cowboys

Its between Mathews and Grant, I'm personally leaning toward Mathews. What do you guys think?

[Gadritan]

That is why we added the running backs.

They were a wash, and thus a moot point.

That's why it came down to Ryan for Amendola. Which is terrible.

[Lockecole7]

I'd honestly play Boldin over Wayne this week. Baltimore isn't going to be able to run, they're going to have to throw it, and Boldin is their best option.

And yeah, Finley will start.

How about I start Boldin for Starks and leave Wayne in, since the whole GB RB situation is up in the air.

[Cail]

Left the auction league so that you guys balance back out to even amount

[Ketsuri]

They were a wash, and thus a moot point.

That's why it came down to Ryan for Amendola. Which is terrible.

Why is the current trade also unfair?

[recuperi]

Its a toss up for me on who I should start at my "flex" spot. My starting line up atm is:

QB Philip Rivers
RB LeSean McCoy
RB Ryan Mathews (flex spot)
WR Wes Welker
WR Vincent Jackson
TE Jermichael Finley
K Nate Kaeding
DEF Chargers

Bench:
QB Kevin Kolb
RB Ryan Grant
WR Lee Evans
WR Marques Colston
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
K Matt Bryant
DEF Cowboys

Its between Mathews and Grant, I'm personally leaning toward Mathews. What do you guys think?

Mathews, he's still the "starter", and the Williams wall is gone for that game. Also, did you intentionally draft that many Chargers or was it just coincidence? lol

Why is the current trade also unfair?

I personally don't see anything wrong with the current one. Disappointing he's openly saying he's taking someone just because, but disappointment can't be a reason for vetoing. In reality all that giving Cutler to him is doing is forcing him to drop someone from his team to accommodate. If I were to veto I would do it based on that fact, but considering how he's acting, I won't help his cause any

[Akiyama]

Guy in Volc's league throwing a shit fit now because we vetoed him trading Ryan for Amendola. Shits hurting my brain.

Ryan.. Matt Ryan? Ryan Matthews? Ryan Grant? Who? I wouldn't trade either of the three for Amendola rofl

[Aragon of Odin]

Everyone's starting Percy Harvin, but San Diego's not going to give him much room to catch shit. I'd rather bank on Austin Collie playing better at Houston than Harvin at Qualcomm Stadium. Now just struggling with Floyd vs. Collie and Gonzalez vs. Hernandez.

Idk, maybe I read too much into history, but San Diego are notorious slow starters, I've lost a bit betting on them early in the season to win. They gonna try and stop AP which might leave Percy open more then you're thinking.

[volcanicweather]

Ryan.. Matt Ryan? Ryan Matthews? Ryan Grant? Who? I wouldn't trade either of the three for Amendola rofl

Trade was Gore and Matt Ryan (his backup QB) for Turner and Amendola. Only thing is he could have taken Turner at 2.3 but took Gore instead and Turner fell to 2.12. So it's even worse.

[Demosthenes11]

It's really not that bad of a trade depending on need from either team. Unless a trade is "oh my god no" I wouldn't veto it, aka jay cutler for rivers or something

[Valisk]

So you guys think the guy/team getting Gore + Ryan will be too overpowered?

[recuperi]

They actually got better in the secondary this year, player wise. Lost the DC though which could make it a push pretty much. Like I said in the NFL thread, I can see AD running all over them this week, so Aragon is probably right. Harvin is definitely a better option than Collie, unsure on Harvin v Floyd

[volcanicweather]

So you guys think the guy/team getting Gore + Ryan will be too overpowered?

Guy getting Gore+Ryan (Ketsuri) already has AP, Jennings, Harvin, and Dallas Clark. His QBs are Hasselsuck and and Cutlet. So it's a pretty dramatic QB upgrade for a 9th round pick.

[volcanicweather]

They actually got better in the secondary this year, player wise. Lost the DC though which could make it a push pretty much. Like I said in the NFL thread, I can see AD running all over them this week, so Aragon is probably right. Harvin is definitely a better option than Collie, unsure on Harvin v Floyd

I think Harvin is going to have a big year if he can stay healthy, he's the only real target the Vikings have and they will probably be playing from behind a decent amount this year. Plus if McNabb can do even close to as well with Harvin as he did with DeSean Jackson his last year in Philly I think Harvin is a respectable WR2 this season.

[Cleverness]

I think the guy raging on the forums calling people amerifags for a fantasy american sport was priceless, why did noone catch that.