Fantasy Football 2011: Jumping the Gun

[Akiyama]

Hrm. I'd go 4000 yards, 26 TDs, more picks, but around the same completion percentage. I suppose I never really paid close attention to his numbers, though. I'd always catch him against the good teams like the Steelers and what not, where his numbers would obviously be crap, like most QBs.

[Tyche]

I can't imagine his TDs going down this season with their schedule. They don't really face many elite secondaries. The Eagles I suppose, packers...

[Demosthenes11]

brady is a system qb in a sense - it's a system that requires the qb to read defenses really well and make smart decisions. It doesn't rely on an overly strong arm or unbelievable accuracy or anything like that, it's about game management and intelligence. Matt Cassel succeeded because a) there were good players around him and b) the system in place is there to rely on the qb very little if need be. I consider cassel to be a very average qb. an average qb on an above average team will win 11 games in a year they play the nfc west and afc west.

[Plow]

wait, the AFC has a west?

[Boyiee]

Well I missed most of the auction tonight.

I'm interested in joining a week2 auction or standard if anyone wants to set one up. I just don't have enough leagues this year. I can copy the settings from BGwest or Auction if you guys want me to set it up. Need more interest.

[Akiyama]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. What about Peyton Manning? Is he a system QB? Or just a different breed? I've never understood the difference between a system QB and.. everyone else, really. I suppose my definition would be.. put a good system around a QB and it can make them look way better than they actually are. Though, there's exceptions because Brady's already pretty damned good, lol

[Tyche]

Manning is a system QB in that he created the system, coached the team, and got Tom Moore a job with the Jets.

[Akiyama]

Manning is a system QB in that he created the system, coached the team, and got Tom Moore a job with the Jets.

Rofl. Nice description.

[Tweek]

Manning would do better than TB on other teams more so than TB would be, but TB is not only a product of NE that's cutting him short.. dude is a pimp and on his way to one of the best of all time if he keeps it up.

[Demosthenes11]

I don't think peyton is a system qb at all. It's a system that requires peyton manning I guess

[tyven]

anything less than 4k yards and 25 tds for matt ryan would be a joke with those weapons. he didnt even break 4k yards last year. come on

[Plow]

Only big time system qb I can remember in the NFL recently at all is Gannon in Chucky's system.

[tyven]

ok apparently only 5 qbs broke 4k yards last year. wtf

[Demosthenes11]

ok apparently only 5 qbs broke 4k yards last year. wtf

what about total team passing? were a few qb shuffles that skewed those numbers due to injury. Lions over 4k I assume? Bills?

[Tweek]

brady is a system qb in a sense - it's a system that requires the qb to read defenses really well and make smart decisions. It doesn't rely on an overly strong arm or unbelievable accuracy or anything like that, it's about game management and intelligence. Matt Cassel succeeded because a) there were good players around him and b) the system in place is there to rely on the qb very little if need be. I consider cassel to be a very average qb. an average qb on an above average team will win 11 games in a year they play the nfc west and afc west.

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[Zounder]

Not to really get into an argument, but draft position doesn't matter when evaluating a trade, even before the season starts. If I drafted Matt Ryan in the first round, is it OK for me to trade him for Ray Rice, because they were both valued as first round talents by the players in the league? Honestly, I think Turner/Amendola for Ryan/Gore is pretty unbalanced, but not enough for a veto. I am of the belief vetoes should only happen in drastically unbalanced trades. I think Turner is the slightly better RB (not by much) and Ryan should definitely have more value than Amendola, making the trade in favor of the person getting Gore/Ryan, but it's not completely crazy.

From what I understand, the person giving up Ryan has him as his backup. That might be his reason for letting himself get ripped off a bit-- he doesn't lose his starting QB, so the trade to him boils down to what he feels is an upgrade and RB and a free WR. (Not that Id do that trade)

[Akiyama]

Ew, you use the wrong BG skin.

[Demosthenes11]

wtf who uses white skins

[Ketsuri]

Not to really get into an argument, but draft position doesn't matter when evaluating a trade, even before the season starts. If I drafted Matt Ryan in the first round, is it OK for me to trade him for Ray Rice, because they were both valued as first round talents by the players in the league? Honestly, I think Turner/Amendola for Ryan/Gore is pretty unbalanced, but not enough for a veto. I am of the belief vetoes should only happen in drastically unbalanced trades. I think Turner is the slightly better RB (not by much) and Ryan should definitely have more value than Amendola, making the trade in favor of the person getting Gore/Ryan, but it's not completely crazy.

From what I understand, the person giving up Ryan has him as his backup. That might be his reason for letting himself get ripped off a bit-- he doesn't lose his starting QB, so the trade to him boils down to what he feels is an upgrade and RB and a free WR. (Not that Id do that trade)

^This

[Cleverness]

How much can you fail Tweek