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  1. #3221
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    My main qualm is the large difference between having on just earrings versus having on nothing; not so much the difference between my full gear and just the earrings.

  2. #3222
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    but it's not just the earrings, if it is attack/defense = damage as your defense goes to 0 the damage is going to go to infinity so any time you drop your defense that low you're going to take insane amounts of damage. You could have a full set of armor from level 1 and still take obscene damage from level 36 mobs, earrings are just the easiest thing to show it since they provide the least amount of defense for your level.

  3. #3223
    I'd Rather Be in Zi'Tah
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    Loads of new KTera Patch previews translated over on the Tera-EU forums.

    https://forum.tera-europe.com/showthread.php?t=97015

    I'd cut and paste but...

    Warrior's getting "Weapon Block" ala Lancer/Zerker.
    Warrior getting a teleport dropped onto their Shadow.
    Lancer getting a backpedal move.
    Lancer getting a real Shield Bash skill.

    Both tanks relying on a third resource!

    New dungeon, training grounds 2.0! The addition of the "21" armor and a new black set that looks downright slutty.

    Not sure if I am 100% in favor of the 15v15 jump versus 10v10 in BGs... sounds like it will make for longer queue times. All in all some nice information... Now we have to wait to see the eta for it to hit non Korean shores. Hopefully end of June!... (a man can dream!)

  4. #3224
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    YAY! The 21 set is getting added! Wonder what it will be from. I will finally be able to get my maid dress(maybe)!

    Edit:
    https://forum.tera-europe.com/showthread.php?t=96697
    Oh shit.. those berserker changes. Charge times reduced by 20%, reduced HP consumption for our HP to MP ability, and an increase to damage on Cyclone when it hits multiple targets. I like. =3

    Also.. those "black sets" were a big.. disappointment. While I do like the black batwing set for Elin better than the horrible rustic red, it's still meh.

    So.. which will the new 21 set come from? Normal mode of the new instance, hard mode of the new instance, or the Argon Queen instance?

  5. #3225
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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    Warrior's getting "Weapon Block" ala Lancer/Zerker.
    Amazing. Cannot wait for this. This should solve quite a few problems I currently have with Warrior tanking and tanking in generally really. This game definitely needed a second "real" tank. Not saying Warriors can't tank things now, but it is just too chaotic (enemy all over the place, can't get my max crit multipliers!).

    Also, Berserker charge times being reduced is awesome. Just started a Berserker, and while it feels quite powerful, I definitely can see issues with it in the future.

  6. #3226
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    Cross Defense sounds TERRIBLE! I wish it was timing based, so you had to actually have skill to use it. "Oh HAI, I'm a ninja, I'll just cross my wittle swords and let the BAM SMASH ME!" Yeah... that's in the spirit of a 5 star difficulty class...

  7. #3227
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    every zerker across the globe welcomes warrior tank parties. IDK what i want to lvl next warrior or berserker!

  8. #3228
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    Elin + Lancer + Maid Outfit = Amazing divided by a one sided zero.

    Warriors getting block is really nice! And what is this about kicking all Lancers now? You people need to play nice!

    I tried to picture how a ninja would block so I tried to Google "Ninja Block" on Google Image and this was the first hit I got:

    http://ninjablocks.com/blog

    It looks like a ninja on a block but I don't see any blocking.

  9. #3229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambrosia View Post
    And what is this about kicking all Lancers now? You people need to play nice!
    With how shitty the community can be, I wouldn't be surprised if this became a thing. Guess I should level warrior now too.

  10. #3230
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    I think I only random queued once for Fane, so I don't have much experience with the dickhead community of Lancers that kick you for being a Berserker, but he was still a dick.

    I actually ended up in the random with Gekii, which I found amusing. The other three were together. We killed the first boss, Gekii died like twice? I don't remember. Anyway, clearing trash in the hall and Gekii says, "afk doorbell". Little while later the healer starts asking, "you back" "I saw you move". So Gekii says, "just resetting crystals, I lost some good ones on the first boss." I forget exactly what the healer then said, but it was something along the lines of, "you want to lose more?" as kind of a threat to him that if he didn't hurry up, she'd let him die more. His reply was pretty much, "stop your crying" and we continued to the hermit crab and killed it. After that they stood there for a bit and then the vote to kick Gekii popped up. Of course I said no and because of that the tank said, "afk pee" and went afk for like 5 mins. Came back and because we were still there he again said "afk 30 mins".

    So Gekii and I sat there for like 15 mins? I don't remember how long. We still had a lockout from the dungeon so we figured we might as well ruin their little plan, had nothing else to do. They eventually disbanded.

    I can totally see people getting revenge and blindly kicking Lancers when there are two tank options. They'll be more inclined to toss them for being assholes too, when they aren't threatened with another 2 hour queue. Then again, this is assuming the option of two tanks reduces the queue to something... manageable.

  11. #3231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiani View Post
    Then again, this is assuming the option of two tanks reduces the queue to something... manageable.
    It will, I despise tanking usually in MMOs but id go tank just to get into a dungeon faster then a 2hr wait time and tank it. Warrior tanking is easy as long as you know what you're doing and i've tanked all the dungeons up to 58 anyways when the lancer died or went afk forever and I didnt want to wait.

  12. #3232
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    Lancers will wise up as soon as they realize that Warriors can take their place and people don't need to put up with their BS. Of course, it may take them a while, because people may still be stuck with a Lancer-only mentality.

    I had an NT instance-finder group last night, where the Lancer came in and complained that his friend wasn't grouped with us (probably because he queued by himself and didn't reset the queue after partying with his friend), and asked the Slayer to leave, albeit somewhat politely. I told him that even if we make room, you can invite specific people to an instance-finder group, but he didn't believe me and asked the Slayer to leave again, who eventually did. Then he tried to invite his friend and failed, so he ended up leaving the group himself. -_-

  13. #3233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    Lancers will wise up as soon as they realize that Warriors can take their place and people don't need to put up with their BS. Of course, it may take them a while, because people may still be stuck with a Lancer-only mentality.

    I had an NT instance-finder group last night, where the Lancer came in and complained that his friend wasn't grouped with us (probably because he queued by himself and didn't reset the queue after partying with his friend), and asked the Slayer to leave, albeit somewhat politely. I told him that even if we make room, you can invite specific people to an instance-finder group, but he didn't believe me and asked the Slayer to leave again, who eventually did. Then he tried to invite his friend and failed, so he ended up leaving the group himself. -_-
    The retarded lancer asking the slayer to leave should have been your cue to GTFO of that group which was destined to fail.

  14. #3234
    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    omg.. I can.. que as zerker again O_o

  15. #3235
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    I wouldn't hold your guys breath. If the lancer gets lead you're still fucked till they make it where you can kick the leader if they are being a prick. Even still w/ needing to have 4 kick votes if they have 1 person in pt they know you're still screwed.

  16. #3236
    Han Cholo
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    I am not a jerk, in game.

  17. #3237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    omg.. I can.. que as zerker again O_o
    omg a zerker! FRIENDING YOU WHEN I GET HOME SO WE CAN DO MAD RUNS! leather* <3 plate

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    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    yeah i think the healers I've been with like zerkers, because a good one usually blocks most the "massive damage" attacks, and takes little as is compared to leather/cloth dps.

    Reminds me of that laser the last boss in BT fire's at ranged people, when someone teleported to try to avoid it making the boss do a 90degree instant turn. Hits me for about 25K, instantly kills the sorc at 100% hp

  19. #3239
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    That laser is stupid easy to avoid too. Love seeing it 1shot healers and sorcs lol

  20. #3240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    yeah i think the healers I've been with like zerkers, because a good one usually blocks most the "massive damage" attacks, and takes little as is compared to leather/cloth dps.

    Reminds me of that laser the last boss in BT fire's at ranged people, when someone teleported to try to avoid it making the boss do a 90degree instant turn. Hits me for about 25K, instantly kills the sorc at 100% hp
    Actually meant to say leather <3 plate.. XD

    I swing 2 swords and stuff.

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