Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

[Byrthnoth]

Aeolian Edging...not brewed

Martial/Fusetto+2 (TP Bonus)/Raider(cant change it)/empty
Maat's Cap/Gorget/Hecate's/Moldavite
Loki's/AF3+2/Demon's/Rajas
Assassin's/Soil/Denali/Lithe Boots

Atmas: Gales & Ultimate & BayingMoon (no Pandy)/Hateful Stream if Windaday


Is there a stronger setup (excluding certain gear changes), or is this tops?

How do Chimera Hairpin and Ugg Pendant compare?

[Kaisha]

Out of BLU/DRG/PUP/BST, what would be my best choice for 2boxing Apollyon with a WHM? I want some homam gear and ABCs, but I never had a DD job lvl'd back when I actually did Limbo.

Spoiler: show

And no one wanted to do Ultima back then because lolNashira, and lol6runsvs4runs.

[NynJa]

How do Chimera Hairpin and Ugg Pendant compare?

I thought I read here that Gorget > Pendant

[Clerix]

What is the song casting -% cap? Still 50%?

[msthief]

Out of BLU/DRG/PUP/BST, what would be my best choice for 2boxing Apollyon with a WHM? I want some homam gear and ABCs, but I never had a DD job lvl'd back when I actually did Limbo.

Spoiler: show

And no one wanted to do Ultima back then because lolNashira, and lol6runsvs4runs.

Probably bst or blu with an eva setup. Limbus mobs have low HP, low defense, but still hit freakishly hard. I did every apollyon as nin/dnc + whm dual box except the second elemental level (with a proper mdt/light resist set it could be done).

[Julian]

Ok so, I'm gonna be doing some KS99s to help friends with BB soon, and I'm wondering, strats? >.>

Looking to do some Wyrms, and maybe Turtle, wondering how easy/not so easy these are now.

I have: 1 char everything (kannagi, armageddon, gandiva, masamune, but taru with crapish hp), 1 taru whm or blm, and a hume rdm (or gimp whm or blm).

I also have a few friends that will be coming along to fill in the other slots, but not 100% sure on their jobs, I would prefer my main to be tanking though, if possible.

So.. yeah. I imagine wyrm should be pretty easy. Any specific strategies, though, or stuff to watch out for? Would NIN WHM BLM + extras work?

And the turtle >_> I don't really remember how that fight goes as I haven't done it in forever, but is it still just blming it up, and would 3-4 blms be enough?

And as for Behe, I assume it's incredibly easy now? Do you still need to kite it?

Thanks

[Falaras]

So I'm looking at builds to get my Mnk capped haste without +2 items or a Black belt and found one using Ocelot Gloves, my question is: is the Haste+1% from Ocelot worth sacrificing the +5 H2H (at 369 H2H without hands)

[dasva]

id guess set it to 99,999.

Not like anything is going to do that much damage again id assume.

It's pretty easy to get brewed wildfire to the 100k range on things that don't take reduced magic dmg

[MisterBob]

Two questions:

What is the best choice for Goetia Body Seals? Amarok is pretty expensive to pop often, and Chione is a T2 VNM. Teugghia sounds scary, with the hate reset and tons of AE spells, but seems very easy to pop. I usually pug things since most of my LS doesn't really do endgame..

Secondly, does anyone out there even run Shinryu anymore? I don't have 200k brews unlocked yet, so I'd rather not farm up (and drop) 2m Cruor just on getting the clear. I've had no luck seeing anyone do the run normally on Bahamut, which makes sense, as I assume everyone just brews it now..

[dasva]

I do shinryu runs occasionally. Now that I have a job that can use mail/helm kinda need them again and well recently did it to get my new alt 200k brews. But I don't shout. Actuallly saw a shout the other day looking for a whm to help with it or something

[DNAval]

this question probably been asked a billion times but my search skills are limited to google so...

is wild fire the best ws to use a brew with?
how does it do against Rani?
and what's the best atmas for it?

[Falaras]

Two questions:

What is the best choice for Goetia Body Seals? Amarok is pretty expensive to pop often, and Chione is a T2 VNM. Teugghia sounds scary, with the hate reset and tons of AE spells, but seems very easy to pop. I usually pug things since most of my LS doesn't really do endgame..

Secondly, does anyone out there even run Shinryu anymore? I don't have 200k brews unlocked yet, so I'd rather not farm up (and drop) 2m Cruor just on getting the clear. I've had no luck seeing anyone do the run normally on Bahamut, which makes sense, as I assume everyone just brews it now..

I see shouts occasionally on Asura, and even if people brew it they still need at least one if not all three procs so it opens up the door for a wide variety of jobs to join in to proc.

[dasva]

this question probably been asked a billion times but my search skills are limited to google so...

is wild fire the best ws to use a brew with?
how does it do against Rani?
and what's the best atmas for it?

Yes
2 shot easy. Did like 50k last time with just staff and gun of gear that mattered no drinks
smouldering sky, lone wolf, griffin claw

[dasva]

Why would you shout for yellow proc for shinryu?

[msthief]

So.. yeah. I imagine wyrm should be pretty easy. Any specific strategies, though, or stuff to watch out for? Would NIN WHM BLM + extras work?

I 2boxed this with a ranger. Setup was Nin (kannagi) + Whm (dual boxed character by nin) + Rng (Gandiva) - all excellently geared. Nin/dnc can solo it during the ground stages and rng can absolutely demolish it (think 60 seconds) through the flying stage. When it lands from the flying stage, just let the ranger die and have the nin finish it off. Terror is some kind of a hate reset, so if the rng gets a quick terror then the ninja should be able to get hate back rq. A couple of things to lookout for:

1. It has regain, pretty heavy regain. So when you first enter the arena it leads off with an ability (usually dragon breath for whatever reason) which can one-shot an elvaan whm with shell5.
2. Shellra5, barfira, suzy feet, dual triumph earrings is enough to take negligible damage.
3. During the first ground stage, just let your ranger get 200 tp so you can jishnu>jishnu a light sc. I think this brought it from ~66 to ~50.

[msthief]

What is the best choice for Goetia Body Seals? Amarok is pretty expensive to pop often, and Chione is a T2 VNM. Teugghia sounds scary, with the hate reset and tons of AE spells, but seems very easy to pop. I usually pug things since most of my LS doesn't really do endgame..

I'd recommend you find someone doing orthrus for an empyrean weapon. If you provide a single popset, personally, I'd let you get 10 goetia bodies.

[Falaras]

Why would you shout for yellow proc for shinryu?

Supposedly accessory drops are tied to the yellow proc.

[dasva]

Never heard that... but have gotten full acessories twice with just blue lol. And last time with blue and th4 though got no weapons/body/head

[Julian]

I 2boxed this with a ranger. Setup was Nin (kannagi) + Whm (dual boxed character by nin) + Rng (Gandiva) - all excellently geared. Nin/dnc can solo it during the ground stages and rng can absolutely demolish it (think 60 seconds) through the flying stage. When it lands from the flying stage, just let the ranger die and have the nin finish it off. Terror is some kind of a hate reset, so if the rng gets a quick terror then the ninja should be able to get hate back rq. A couple of things to lookout for:

1. It has regain, pretty heavy regain. So when you first enter the arena it leads off with an ability (usually dragon breath for whatever reason) which can one-shot an elvaan whm with shell5.
2. Shellra5, barfira, suzy feet, dual triumph earrings is enough to take negligible damage.
3. During the first ground stage, just let your ranger get 200 tp so you can jishnu>jishnu a light sc. I think this brought it from ~66 to ~50.

Ok so, if I go Gandiva RNG, I'm gonna have another nin tanking, who wont have Kannagi, and idk how well he would be able to hold up D:

Would NIN + like 2 blms nuking during the air work just as well?

[TheDirtyHobo]

What is the song casting -% cap? Still 50%?

No, all manner of fast-cast type things will cap at ~20% on the bar. I think SCH strategems and Nightingale will exceed the cap like always, though.