Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

[Avarice]

It can be negated by WHM AF3+2 set bonus, but that was recently shown to be 10% for 5/5 so it isn't anything to rely on.

I was under the impression the proc rate was boosted, but maybe I misread the update notes. Thanks though, that's what I wanted to hear; planning to do these lowman with only one available stunner and wanted to know what to expect in a worst-case scenario.

[Nightfyre]

testing was done post-update

[dasva]

Where's this 3k dmg from anyways? I recently did it and well our stunner kept missing it but managed to stun everything else and I know our tank had less than 3k hp...

[Byrthnoth]

Where's this 3k dmg from anyways? I recently did it and well our stunner kept missing it but managed to stun everything else and I know our tank had less than 3k hp...

It's 3k divided evenly among the target. The other value I was referring to was 9k divided evenly among the targets. Not reduced by Shell.

[Obsidian]

Yeah, he does freak 9k Disgorges (or maybe just a random high amount of damage) if he doesn't Gorge before he Disgorges sometimes. Back when I was doing him the first time, my theory was that he just pulled the Gorge value from the last time he'd done it in the zone and the previous group had sucked. (It was when all the tard alliances were doing boss kills.) Second time through I didn't see it at all in 50 shells, so maybe that was it.

I feel like the Disgorge damage is dependant on how much it Gorges for as well as how much you heal it. The amount he does doesn't seem to always reset. I got nailed for 6k once and then again while weakened for 12k or something. Sometimes he'll TP just as the WAR does an Ukko's or something. We're pretty good about turning though.

I wouldn't count on barstone to save you. I'm not sure I've seen it proc on a Disgorge yet. One stun should be enough unless you're feeding an obnoxious amount of TP to it.

Edit: The 8k ones I've eaten were with two people in range to split the damage, plus Shellra V.

[dasva]

Well yeah I mean there no other way to reduce it? Cause pretty sure our 1 tank was the only one being hit by it but I wasn't paying that close attention since I was busy curing and Th whoring

[jimbobsonofgod]

Victory smite
pants > Byakkos +3 Crit damage or Kokugesu with 6 str 1 att
Head > Anwig 4dex/4agil or Shura 1% WSD 5 conserve TP or Aias
Inside and out ?

Gonna see if this thread treats me any better. So any thoughts?

[Churchill]

Disgorge was doing a pretty constant 2100 to me on MNK w/PDT-DT set, 3000 without. Always one-shotted the NIN, was actually getting to be hilarious as he died about 23 times at the exact moment Migawari went down. He did eat a 5k Disgorge as the first TP move of the fight at ~87%, so that may play into the non-gorge theory.

[Deader2818]

Wildfire used to not be able to self skillchain correct? Like Wildfire > Wildfire made nothing?

[Julian]

Wildfire used to not be able to self skillchain correct? Like Wildfire > Wildfire made nothing?

Darkness.

[Deader2818]

Hmm, thought I read before it couldn't for some reason then I noticed it did when I did Khim, maybe im just blind, lol.

[dasva]

I actually read alot of people saying it did nothing a bit back but as far as I can tell it's always done darkness... at least once I turn spellcast off or blinkmenot on lol

[Deader2818]

Yeah, just noticed I started to see it doing darkness so wasnt sure if it was a ninja patch on it or something.

[urat]

Just finishing up leveling monk, is building a kick attacks gearset and rocking the tp bonus+100 HTH with footwork, Af3+2 feet, and using Tornado kick a retarded idea, or a legitimate way to play full DD monk?

Looking at the numbers, tp bonus HTH should give a 33% increase in fTp to tornado kick, and its gimp damage doesnt even matter because I'm using footwork.

However I'm new to monk so I'm sure there's numbers out there saying whether or not going a kick attacks route for monk is stupid or smart or meh.

[Mojo]

There are some footwork builds that work ok, but only outside of Abyssea and you want the OAT2-4 H2H. That said it's easier to get Victory Smite than the OAT2-4 H2H and you will always be better off with smite than some footwork build.

[urat]

There are some footwork builds that work ok, but only outside of Abyssea and you want the OAT2-4 H2H. That said it's easier to get Victory Smite than the OAT2-4 H2H and you will always be better off with smite than some footwork build.

Could you explain to me how the OA2-4 HTH works with kick attacks? I'm really new to monk so have little idea how it actually works.

[Mojo]

weapon base damage doesn't factor into kicks, but the OAT still procs (in the form of double attacks only.) so a weapon that constantly double kicks without giving up anything is pretty much as good as it gets for footwork. but footwork still sucks.

[Radec]

The +DA rate is extremely high as well, 80-90%, and since you get 2 ~13 TP hits from ws, it's very reasonable to get a ws+4 or ws+5 hit build, but with a 80-90% DA rate that ends up being 2-3 rounds after ws.

It's fun, and is an incredibly easy way to get blue!!'s, but it's easier/faster to get vere90 than oa4.

[urat]

Well then, the question then is, what will I require to get vere, 85 at least? I have done testing and think my dancer is capable of edge burning monsters to farm KI popsets, which means I could farm up twashtar at the same time as vere, so what are all the necessary pieces of the puzzle for a 90 dnc/monk/brd to take down the paths for lv 85 twashtar and vere?

[Karbuncle]

I'm not usually one to ask about farming Advice, But i've hit a stonewall.

I've been looking through FFXIAH for something to farm, and i'm coming up short on just about anything time effective and profitable. I'm going for a Mandau so Dynamis is tired up in Currency-wise (Which would be a huge money maker).

I know most people don't like sharing their secrets, otherwise they wouldn't be secrets, But I don't suppose someone could shoot me a PM on some decent things to farm?

I know Abyssea is an obvious answer but that really boils down to luck if you're going the brown-box route, and outside of that I don't have a Dual Box so I'm pretty much stuck as THF/NIN or THF/DNC for farming (Technically i have like 13 other jobs but I'd like TH).

Sorry to be "that guy" -.-, I'm just out of Ideas and FFXIAH browsing isn't helping.