Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

[Bendak]

I am VERY interested in anyone that has a guide or some sort of in depth info on how to do something like this. I have a WHM RL Friend that lets me dualbox if i want, however I have never been able to get 2 instances of Windower to run at the same time. So tabbing to a Official POL window is very annoying. So I dont dualbox her ever.
So as a plea anyone with info or knowledge of getting windower to run 2 instances and dualbox work please inform the ones of us that are not as knowledgeable in this area.
Thank you so kindly.

Are you running Windows Vista or 7? If so try disabling UAC. If that doesn't work try logging in both accounts to POL before launching either of them into FFXI. If it still doesn't work I'm not sure what else to tell you sorry.

As for some more general multi-boxing observations.
I love my G15 keyboard. Using the g15binder plugin I can press M1G1 and the alias m1g1 is executed on all characters that are running and have the plugin loaded not just the screen in focus.

Here are some examples.

alias m1g1 input /follow Bendak
alias m1g2 setkey numpad7 down; wait .1; setkey numpad7 up;
alias m1g3 input /heal

The m1g2 alias will stop the mules from autorunning or following.

If you have one of the newer Logitech keyboards with the macro keys that doesn't work with the g15binder plugin try XI-Util from the Windower forums. It has plugins that are supposed to add support for the Logitech G510, G13 and possibly others.

XI-Util also has the functionality of multisend built in as one of it's plugins.

Also people who multibox have surely noticed that the chat logs will end up blending together and may blank or crash the game if you attempt to view them. XI-Util has a fix for that with it's Windower Sandbox Plugin. It only works with Vista and 7 using folder redirection and registry edits while launching separate Windowers.

In addition for convenience you can use the autoexec plugin to do things like have certain scripts run based on what character logged in and set your mules to auto accept party invites for your main.

[cdgreg]

Looking to farm a couple Z tiara sets. I've heard mixed things about the iron giant in Uleg, some posts make him sound like the worst thing in the world, others say he's easy duo. I have WHM on main, and kannagi nin, war, or mnk on mule. What would be the best dual box setup assuming it's possible?


@ nikia make sure you have priority.dll in your plugins folder.

[xMerlinx]

What is kirins osode still useful for?

Can be a nice Eva piece. If use Byakko's scraps it's possible to get DW 3 Crit rate 3 and Eva 7. Beats Antares.

[dasva]

Well it can sorta be both. Like at first it's kinda a push over but the more it 2hrs the harder it gets and if it takes awhile to find red proc... once had it at like 90% -dt and it's normal melee hits were over 2k to the nin. Though that was more because damn thing would end 1 2hr just to go into another right away

[Eldelphia]

So i went on my quest to get my Tsukikazu Togi from Battleclad Chariot in Zhayolm Remnants, needless to say as a rank amateur we got our asses handed to us.
set up : NIN+THF+WHM

we managed to get to the 6th floor with 30min to spare but the Archaic Chariot on the 6th floor kicked our ass when it popped an army of gears

any tips?

If you have more time and you're struggling with kiting, just have 2 players run to a safe alcove, have someone else tag the chariot (which pops the gears) and die in another alcove. Then reraise back up and rejoin the duo. That's how most people did it at 75.

[Julian]

Are you running Windows Vista or 7? If so try disabling UAC. If that doesn't work try logging in both accounts to POL before launching either of them into FFXI. If it still doesn't work I'm not sure what else to tell you sorry.

As for some more general multi-boxing observations.
I love my G15 keyboard. Using the g15binder plugin I can press M1G1 and the alias m1g1 is executed on all characters that are running and have the plugin loaded not just the screen in focus.

Here are some examples.

alias m1g1 input /follow Bendak
alias m1g2 setkey numpad7 down; wait .1; setkey numpad7 up;
alias m1g3 input /heal

The m1g2 alias will stop the mules from autorunning or following.

If you have one of the newer Logitech keyboards with the macro keys that doesn't work with the g15binder plugin try XI-Util from the Windower forums. It has plugins that are supposed to add support for the Logitech G510, G13 and possibly others.

XI-Util also has the functionality of multisend built in as one of it's plugins.

Also people who multibox have surely noticed that the chat logs will end up blending together and may blank or crash the game if you attempt to view them. XI-Util has a fix for that with it's Windower Sandbox Plugin. It only works with Vista and 7 using folder redirection and registry edits while launching separate Windowers.

In addition for convenience you can use the autoexec plugin to do things like have certain scripts run based on what character logged in and set your mules to auto accept party invites for your main.

omg I love you. First I loved you for the unfollow macro, and 2nd for the XI-util thing so I can finally use my new keyboard instead of this super old g11 i've been using forever XD

I do love my g11(basically same as g15v1 but I could actually find it for a cheap price) to death and it has made 3boxing so much easier :D

[keitari]

My girlfriend just finished leveling Thief, so I am trying to help her decide what to merit.

For reference, she'll be using her Thief for adventures both inside and outside Abyssea. (Outside, mainly for dynamis). It's probably a 70%/30% split between Abyssea time and non-Abyssea time.

I usually duo with her as either Mnk/Dnc or Nin/Dnc and tank whatever we will be fighting. For NM's and such, we usually grab a Whm buddy of ours to help out.

Group 1:
5/5 Triple Attack (seems like a no-brainer.)

However, should she level Sneak Attack recast or Trick Attack Recast (or some combination)? Again, I will be tanking most of the time anyway so the mob shouldn't be bouncing around all that much. I'm thinking she should merit Trick Attack since she can just keep spamming it on me. But again, I don't know if I am thinking it all the way through.

Group 2:

5/5 Feint looks like the clear winner for us but no idea what to merit for the rest. I was thinking some in Assassin's Charge and maybe one merit in Aura Steal for the rare occasion that it will help us.

Thanks in advance,

[dasva]

If it's just the 2 of you the mob should be bouncing around alot. Only takes like 8k dmg to cap hate and then it doesn't matter who has better dps. I did 5/5 SA but almost feel I should be TA since unless I'm only TH whoreing (and sometimes even then) I tend to have hate alot and have to do funny things to get SA off like time it so that I hit SA right before I know the other guy is about to swing. Or SA disengage etc.

I find aura steal helping out alot more than feint. Generally speaking was only used for zerging highish evasion mobs... which doesn't really happen much anymore (either better to not zerg or it's not that high evasion anymore in comparison). It just wears off too fast and the -evasion decays really fast too. And even 5/5 it's recast isn't low enough to be practical on a normal fighting basis. AC isn't really as great if you use TA atmas since you got an awesome chance anyways. But it is kinda fun to force it.

[Khajit]

What is kirins osode still useful for?

You can get -5% pdt with genbu scraps in addition to regen. That's the one that stuck out in my mind as useful compared to other shit.

[cdgreg]

My girlfriend just finished leveling Thief

Personally I did 5/5 SA and 5/5 Triple attack in group 1. I find myself building TH quite a bit in low man situations where I am also dual boxing a healer and all I do is SA when timer is up.

Group 2 I did 3/5 assassin's charge, 1/5 feint, 1/5 aura steal, and 5/5 ambush. Reflecting on it now I don't know how happy I am with them since I use thf much differently that I had originally anticipated. There's been plenty of times when dual boxing blm/whm and thf farming seals and the aura steal failed to take some annoying ass spikes so putting more merits into that would definitely be beneficial. I originally put all the merits into ambush thinking I'd generally be behind the mob while someone else was tanking but really that's not how I use the job. Although it may be a decent choice for her if the mob will always be facing you. Assassin's charge is cool and all, but really the recast timer is so long and triple attack rate is so high in abyssea I tend to only use it in emergencies, and really that's not going to save me.

I know I just rambled on here, but thanks for posting the question, I'm definitely going to re-do my thf t2 merits because of how I play the job.

edit: thought feint lasted a minute, but only 30 seconds, mehhhh. Also the evasion penalty decreases fairly drastically over that time period.

[Valisk]

I did:

5/5 Sneak Attack
5/5Triple Attack

5/5 Feint
4/5 Assassin's Charge
1/5 Aura Steal

and the aura steal failed to take some annoying ass spikes so putting more merits into that would definitely be beneficial.

I was under the impression that aura steal merits were absorbtion rate only. Dispeling depends on a successful steal that + Steal gear affects. 5/5 Aura won't guarantee the steal will be successful but if it is, it will 100% absorb whatever it dispelled. At least that's what I thought.

[Malacite]

So what's the best Atma & SJ combination for skilling up Guard in Altepa on the black mandies? (MNK main, not PUP as my Automaton's magic skill isn't capped yet)

I'm sick of having a low guard skill. I figure Mounted Champion & Ducal Guard, but what should my 3rd be?

[Atoreis]

If it's just the 2 of you the mob should be bouncing around alot. Only takes like 8k dmg to cap hate and then it doesn't matter who has better dps. I did 5/5 SA but almost feel I should be TA since unless I'm only TH whoreing (and sometimes even then) I tend to have hate alot and have to do funny things to get SA off like time it so that I hit SA right before I know the other guy is about to swing. Or SA disengage etc.

I find aura steal helping out alot more than feint. Generally speaking was only used for zerging highish evasion mobs... which doesn't really happen much anymore (either better to not zerg or it's not that high evasion anymore in comparison). It just wears off too fast and the -evasion decays really fast too. And even 5/5 it's recast isn't low enough to be practical on a normal fighting basis. AC isn't really as great if you use TA atmas since you got an awesome chance anyways. But it is kinda fun to force it.

While this is mostly right I have no experience with VW and I heard mobs there can be pretty evasive so If you on thf there already faint would probably helps a lot.

[Skylark]

Merits for Nin? Have 5/5 Subtle Blow 5/5 Hyoton, 5/5 Hyoton San 5/5 Tool Expertise.
Also easily accessible Jin set?

[Churchill]

The only place you will hear mixed things about the Iron Giant in Ule from is Wikia and gimps. It's seriously one of the easiest Ironclads as it doesn't have a hate reset, doesn't encumber, doesn't do shit really.

Well it gets raped.

Only concern to keep in mind is it will draw in and it can easily kill an ill prepared Ninja (Or a 3boxing Ninja who is on his other character). Having real players and MNK/NIN/WAR available should make this stupidly easy.

[Francisco]

So what's the best Atma & SJ combination for skilling up Guard in Altepa on the black mandies? (MNK main, not PUP as my Automaton's magic skill isn't capped yet)

I'm sick of having a low guard skill. I figure Mounted Champion & Ducal Guard, but what should my 3rd be?

I'd probably go with MNK/RDM (Phalanx, Regen, Refresh, Stoneskin), wear as much -PDT gear as possible and use Vicissitude, Stronghold and Mounted Champion. Those atma alone will give you 50hp/tick regen, 80 DEF and 50 VIT.

I think you could stay up forever against most mobs with that...

[TSFFXI]

So i went on my quest to get my Tsukikazu Togi from Battleclad Chariot in Zhayolm Remnants, needless to say as a rank amateur we got our asses handed to us.
set up : NIN+THF+WHM

At Lv.75 I would deaggro the gears as THF. Have your party sit at H-9 while you pull the chariot with a ranged attack. After pulling, run to the back corner of G-7, wait for the gears to catch up and flee out of the room back towards your party. Hug the wall to avoid additional aggro and use hide when flee wears off.

I don't think this is necessary any more, especially since you'll want to fight the gears for alexandrite anyway.

[TacoTaru]

Has the recent update changed anything about SAM merits or gear in regards to Zanshin? I haven't kept up with it, but SAM is next on my wife's list of jobs to finish off, so I'm wondering if she should reallocate some merits elsewhere.

[Aylee]

Looking to edge some crap on ninja, whats best dagger, atma, and get builds to use? which belts work with AE? ty

[Deadgye]

Thf merits: 5/5 Triple Attack, then do whatever you want. 5/5 ta, 5/5sa, 2/5 sata, 5/5 flee. For group two I recommend 5/5 feint, at least 1/5 aura steal, 0/5 ambush, and then whatever you want.