Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

[Bail]

Does Victory Smite really produce AMber? otherwiki says it does.. but i'm not getting any Amber drops.

Victory is ruby as far as I know

[msthief]

What does the crit rate from ddex cap at? I've heard 25, but BG wiki doesn't state it directly. If someone can give me written proof of testing I'd appreciate it.

[Cairthenn]

Does Victory Smite really produce AMber? otherwiki says it does.. but i'm not getting any Amber drops.

Victory Smite is Ruby.

[Cairthenn]

What does the crit rate from ddex cap at? I've heard 25, but BG wiki doesn't state it directly. If someone can give me written proof of testing I'd appreciate it.

It definitely used to be 20% (25% would be with merits), at 50 DEX above target AGI, but I'm not sure if it's still capped there or if they lifted it.

[Amok]

What kind of numbers/setup is needed to zerg kill Natrix (Hydra) Boss in WoE conflux 5? Is CS stun necessary?

[msthief]

Am I missing anything in the following checks for a weapon skill:

Triple attack > Double attack > Accuracy check (miss possibility) > Critical hit

(Ignoring quad attack)

Also: I just want to verify that a DA or TA can only proc twice in any weapon skill.

[Radec]

What kind of numbers/setup is needed to zerg kill Natrix (Hydra) Boss in WoE conflux 5? Is CS stun necessary?

Back at 85 did this with 2melee 2brd 2whm + 2 characters to block extra wyverns, doubt you'd need more now, but was no slouches in those runs either. Not really a zerg but a zerg isn't needed.

[Khajit]

Faust/Zip soloable by bst in sky? Trying to think of stuff to do and I'm too lazy to job change atm.

[msthief]

Also... is PDIF recalculated for each hit of a multi-hit ws or during a double attack? If yes then...

So if after the randomizers you get a pdif of 2 for a given hit that double attacks... is it 2 for each hit in that double attack 'barrage' or is it recalculated each time?

[Atoreis]

Also... is PDIF recalculated for each hit of a multi-hit ws or during a double attack? If yes then...

So if after the randomizers you get a pdif of 2 for a given hit that double attacks... is it 2 for each hit in that double attack 'barrage' or is it recalculated each time?

I am 99% sure its separate for each hit of multihit WS and I am 100% sure its separate for double,triple attacks while melee/shooting/ja

[Chun Liroy]

I am 99% sure its separate for each hit of multihit WS and I am 100% sure its separate for double,triple attacks while melee/shooting/ja

Is crit rerolled on every hit of a WS?

Edit: Where do T2s and T1s spawn in attohwa?

[Amok]

T2 pops on top of or right next to the mountain (por[something] tor) then moves north or west over to murex and into the tunnels. Not sure where after that.

[msthief]

I'm pretty damn positive you can do 1x, 2x, 3x crits on Jin. That's the only way to explain its random numbers (even with a crit rate of 80% you only do 3/3 about 50% of the time). Also, since pdif is recalculated for each hit and crit rate modifies pdif it would be kind of silly if it didn't.

I'd like to re-ask this question, sorry for such a fast bump but I'm doing some calculations and this is holding me up:


Am I missing anything in the following checks for a weapon skill:

Triple attack > Double attack > Accuracy check (miss possibility) > Critical hit

[Chun Liroy]

I'm pretty damn positive you can do 1x, 2x, 3x crits on Jin. That's the only way to explain its random numbers (even with a crit rate of 80% you only do 3/3 about 50% of the time). Also, since pdif is recalculated for each hit and crit rate modifies pdif it would be kind of silly if it didn't.

I'd like to re-ask this question, sorry for such a fast bump but I'm doing some calculations and this is holding me up:


Am I missing anything in the following checks for a weapon skill:

Triple attack > Double attack > Accuracy check (miss possibility) > Critical hit

Thanks Amok.

What about double attack criticals on WSs?

[msthief]

Same deal. If you recalculate the PDIF for each hit on the weapon skill then it's safe to assume you also have a critical check on each hit of the double attack. Again, I'm not entirely positive about this but if I'm incorrect then SE deserves a big "WTF".

[Nightfyre]

It definitely used to be 20% (25% would be with merits), at 50 DEX above target AGI, but I'm not sure if it's still capped there or if they lifted it.

Still capped. 5% base rate, up to 15% more from dDEX, then 5% from merits and more from gear/atma/buffs.

[Gustave]

If you create 9 mules and deactivate them, will they be eligible for mog bonanza after 45 days?

[Valisk]

If you create 9 mules and deactivate them, will they be eligible for mog bonanza after 45 days?

Yes.

[Koyangi]

I can attest to Seiryu being the worst of the gods now especially in lowman, all the other 3 are snoozefests, and chainspell stun for suzaku is still necessary.

Kind of like what that guy above described (about Seiryu), all of it can happen fast and you're dead.

Also, the Bost. Obl. page 4 is so damn nice. My DNC just rapes through them so fast, I was surprised noone else was there doing it when I was there.

[Nightfyre]

chainspell stun for suzaku is still necessary

If your DD has a decent MDT kit and your WHM isn't gimp, you can just lock in MDT gear and melee through Chainspell.

Seiryu can be bound with relative ease now so DD + WHM/RDM shouldn't be dying to Hundred Fists.