Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

**Chun Liroy** · 2011-07-26 22:46

Originally Posted by Bigsyke

Perle hands for restraint down, empyrean hands +2 for restraint up.

No.

**Neisan** · 2011-07-26 22:58

If Byrth's theory testing of the Set bonus being a separate term is correct than it's worth even less than previously predicted to the point I'd use almost anything over Emp+2 hands with Restraint down if accuracy isn't an issue. Falz+1 helm/Dusk+1 gloves should net more attack/accuracy/skill than Zelus/Perle.

**Obsidian** · 2011-07-26 22:58

Originally Posted by Neisan

5% base, 15% with +50 DEX over enemy AGI.

I thought it was 5% base + 20% from capped dDEX?

**Neisan** · 2011-07-26 22:59

er, correction, +15% on that. editing

**dasva** · 2011-07-26 23:08

Originally Posted by Obsidian

I thought it was 5% base + 20% from capped dDEX?

Nope. 5 base, 15 from dDex, 5 from merits for 25%. Then the rest is gear and atmas and some jas and base rate for weaponskills

**Haborym** · 2011-07-27 00:51

Originally Posted by Silentleroy

No.

Yes, if you are using AF3+2 hands with restraint down you need to rework your gear sets.

**Radec** · 2011-07-27 01:25

Originally Posted by arus2001

Since playing BLU is fucking ass in Voidwatch, has any list of spells they can use been compiled? And if an enfeeble, does it actually have to land?

List of spells: All of the magical ones. Sucks, yes.

Enfeebles have to stick, and if a stronger version is on (slow2 vs slow1) you need to wait for it to wear before applying yours.

**noodles355** · 2011-07-27 01:55

Originally Posted by Kamil

NIN WHM THF or MNK WHM THF able to trio Long-armed Chariot?

I sure as hell hope so, I've duo'd LAC Thf/Nin + Sam/War.

**Miltani** · 2011-07-27 02:21

Been seeing AoA stated by a lot of people here what does it mean actually?

**Deader2818** · 2011-07-27 02:32

Atma of Apocalypse

**Draylo** · 2011-07-27 02:37

People should just say apoc.. lol

**Miltani** · 2011-07-27 02:44

Originally Posted by Draylo

People should just say apoc.. lol

yeah i was confused when i saw some people saying apoc and then aoa

**Atoreis** · 2011-07-27 02:52

Originally Posted by Draylo

People should just say apoc.. lol

Tbh I was confused by AoA for a second after it came out too.
Wonder why ppl who write AoA wont call GH AoGH and RR AoRR

**Gokulo** · 2011-07-27 02:54

Originally Posted by Atoreis

Tbh I was confused by AoA for a second after it came out too.
Wonder why ppl who write AoA wont call GH AoGH and RR AoRR

Because if they were to go with the GH/RR flow then it would be "A" and pretty confusing

**Yugl** · 2011-07-27 03:06

Originally Posted by Atoreis

Tbh I was confused by AoA for a second after it came out too.
Wonder why ppl who write AoA wont call GH AoGH and RR AoRR

Without reading the first part of your post, I honestly though AoRR referred to Atma of Reraise Reraise Reraise and more fuckin' Reraise.

**Obsidian** · 2011-07-27 03:10

Originally Posted by Atoreis

Tbh I was confused by AoA for a second after it came out too.
Wonder why ppl who write AoA wont call GH AoGH and RR AoRR

Because without "Atma of" the abbreviation would be A. The rest drop the Ao prefix because it's unnecessary for differentiation. and cumbersome to type. Honestly, AoA doesn't even solve the problem, since we could be referring to Allure or Apoc, or another uncommon atma, but Apoc is four letters and in an era where typing out vowels appears to be frowned upon, I doubt anyone wants to hit any more keys than absolutely necessary.

**Okan** · 2011-07-27 03:18

Originally Posted by Yugl

Without reading the first part of your post, I honestly though AoRR referred to Atma of Reraise Reraise Reraise and more fuckin' Reraise.

I still think of Reraise and Stoneskin when I see those atmas listed. Sea Daughter is Service Desk.

**Wolfshadow** · 2011-07-27 03:39

Not to interrupt the AoRRGHAAVVMM chain but srs bns question:
For THF (and I guess DNC to an extent), what would be the best combination out of Max Yataghan, Auric and Twilight.
For a while I was using Twilight/Auric, but after reading some threads and getting a near perfect Yataghan and still having 500k Dominion notes to squander I began questioning this. Not exactly THF main, otherwise I'd be getting STR kilas, Twatwasher, etc as is tradition. Thanks in advance

**Marcicus** · 2011-07-27 03:57

Anyone have some 6-hit Ukon builds they could share? I've been reading on FFXIAH and it seems the 6-hit builds beat out the 5-hits.

**Okan** · 2011-07-27 04:25

Originally Posted by Wolfshadow

Not to interrupt the AoRRGHAAVVMM chain but srs bns question:
For THF (and I guess DNC to an extent), what would be the best combination out of Max Yataghan, Auric and Twilight.
For a while I was using Twilight/Auric, but after reading some threads and getting a near perfect Yataghan and still having 500k Dominion notes to squander I began questioning this. Not exactly THF main, otherwise I'd be getting STR kilas, Twatwasher, etc as is tradition. Thanks in advance

I know you said you're not THF main, but Magian trials are not extremely difficult if you have the time. Ideally, even if it's just a little at a time, I'd recommend building the STR Kila. It's nothing compared to building a Twashtar. I'm not super-mathy. However I'd think the Twilight's TA 3% may outweigh a 5% reduction in delay.

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