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  1. #1581
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    I've always assumed you just needed to wipe out a group of monsters with an area-damaging attack to reset their level. Is that not so?

    Your luck is amazing Atoreis. On occasion, I've spent hours there and not gotten a single molted peiste skin.

  2. #1582
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    Are there any mobs that drop +2 Empyreans Armor items that a RDM/NIN can solo by pinning/kiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    How is BB item drop rate from KS99s?
    Out of 30 runs done in two days last week we saw a total of 2BB items. I would say it's the same drop rate it's always been which is around 5-8%.


    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    RDM has lower tier of shield mastery so if you pull a lot of mobs and can survive their attacks then it's not that slow ( you can probably easily break 2k+ AE on 100TP as RDM ). On the other hand you are pretty much limited to MNK type mobs probably if we talking about T-VT (but maybe I am wrong). What I like with Ochain is that I can pull any mobs pretty much even if they are VT. It was really great for farming Sobek for example. One round of all bugards usually gave at least 2 triggers and a chance for more KI from chests. When my friend was doing Minax already I could solo cleave next round of bugard for more triggers and chests. We easily did 12 Sobeks in 5h like that completely ignoring Guku and 40 japs that were camping it ^^.
    Yeah, the joys of ochain I suppose. I didn't realize rdm got shield mastery herp so I guess that would make it significantly quicker. Fuck gold box farming though, seriously. Just 4box like a pro and guarentee yourself the first 2 guks lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Are there any mobs that drop +2 Empyreans Armor items that a RDM/NIN can solo by pinning/kiting?
    Uh. Idk why you would do this but Empousa can be pinned. Many, many other NMs could be solo'd easily by a rdm/nin so you would have to be more specific with which mats you're interested in. I would say Durinn, Bukhis (using varney pin), All the visions nms sans glavoid, Amhuluk, CC, Sobek, Itza, Titl, Ulhuad (if you get lucky with psyche suctions maybe), uhhh at this point it would be easier to give you a list of mobs you probably won't be able to solo.

    I'm also assuming you have capped gear sets for pdt/mdt etc etc, otherwise you don't really have any business asking.

  4. #1584
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Out of 30 runs done in two days last week we saw a total of 2BB items. I would say it's the same drop rate it's always been which is around 5-8%.
    Holy god, that's shitty. Lsmates were saying 25-50% so I wanted some more points of view...

  5. #1585
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    Calling total bullshit on that. Talked to a friend in another ls that did a similar amount of runs the same night as me with similar results (1bb item out of 12ish runs). Fucking went 0/30 on a KB pop too. Fuck dring.

  6. #1586
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    Small sample size, etc.

  7. #1587
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    BLU Charged Whisker;
    Wiki has the INT mod as ?, so I was wondering;

    INT vs DEX which is better? I have stuff like snow satchet vs thunder satchet and pretty equal stuff like that.

  8. #1588
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    Start reading here:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/939...=1#post4633961

    and go until a couple of posts on the second page. That should answer your question (I think).

  9. #1589
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necromage View Post
    BLU Charged Whisker;
    Wiki has the INT mod as ?, so I was wondering;

    INT vs DEX which is better? I have stuff like snow satchet vs thunder satchet and pretty equal stuff like that.
    DEX triumphs INT with BA up (Which you should be using anyways).

  10. #1590
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSFFXI View Post
    I've always assumed you just needed to wipe out a group of monsters with an area-damaging attack to reset their level. Is that not so?

    Your luck is amazing Atoreis. On occasion, I've spent hours there and not gotten a single molted peiste skin.
    His luck isn't that amazing. I have horrible luck but always manage lots of KIs in miseraux. I've actually gotten 3 peiste skins in a single pull. Part of it is getting enough lights and well pulling lots of mobs. When half your chest are gold and you get a good 20 chest per pull KIs come in pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    Small sample size, etc.
    Assuming sarcasm but that aside, after doing them for more than 4years I'm fairly confident in my number. I'm surprised you're even questioning them; obv teamvalor never really bothered w/ ks99s.

  12. #1592
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    PLD can cleave without Ochain easily. With a halfway decent PDT set and Phalanx, most mobs will hit you for single digits if not 0. If you're /RDM like you should be, then you'll be pulling with Stoneskin on and shouldn't even START taking damage till 1/2-3/4 of the way through the pull (if even then). When that happens, pop Sentinel and you'll be all 0s. Recast Phalanx sometime before Sentinel wears off, get to camp, cast Reprisal, and if you pulled to a good place with all the mobs in your frontal arc, then you should be getting TP before the animation from AE is even done. Assuming you Atma'd for AE, it should take maybe 4 or 5 WSs to kill everything. If you have lights built up, then don't hesitate to use Invincible if things start to get scary, as you should get plenty of ISL boxes.

    PLD Cleaving is slightly slower than BLU (Solo for both), but I feel that the pulls are safer even though I have a capped PDT build on BLU (well, with Lion Atma on, at least).

    Edit: You don't HAVE to pop Sentinel when you start taking damage if you don't mind getting beat on a while. If you know when your Phalanx is due to wear off, you can save Sentinel till ~10-20 seconds before that just to get it back up.

  13. #1593
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Uh. Idk why you would do this but Empousa can be pinned. Many, many other NMs could be solo'd easily by a rdm/nin so you would have to be more specific with which mats you're interested in. I would say Durinn, Bukhis (using varney pin), All the visions nms sans glavoid, Amhuluk, CC, Sobek, Itza, Titl, Ulhuad (if you get lucky with psyche suctions maybe), uhhh at this point it would be easier to give you a list of mobs you probably won't be able to solo.

    I'm also assuming you have capped gear sets for pdt/mdt etc etc, otherwise you don't really have any business asking.
    How do you go about doing this? My RDM/NIN has both -50% PDT/MDT sets. I assume a number of these can be straight tanked, but I'm trying to decide which atma sets to go. Minikin seems like a good idea no matter what, infinite MP is tough to beat.

    Can you exceed the PDT/MDT caps by throwing on Heavens atma or anything similar? Or should I just stick two heavy melee damage atmas in the other slots to speed things up a bit?

  14. #1594
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    My KS99 runs have usually got around 1/5 BB items although that's going by my poor memory. It's right in that range that can produce a great variety of results if only a few runs are done.

    25.86% - Odds of going 2/30 assuming 1/5 drop rate.

  15. #1595
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    His luck isn't that amazing. I have horrible luck but always manage lots of KIs in miseraux. I've actually gotten 3 peiste skins in a single pull. Part of it is getting enough lights and well pulling lots of mobs. When half your chest are gold and you get a good 20 chest per pull KIs come in pretty good
    ; ;
    I usually start pulling all of the lizards at 200~ amber or so and let it cap from the pulls. Maybe it was just a fluke.

  16. #1596
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    Any use for chr+9 brygid panties?

  17. #1597
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    PLD Cleaving is slightly slower than BLU (Solo for both), but I feel that the pulls are safer even though I have a capped PDT build on BLU (well, with Lion Atma on, at least).
    That's where the benefit of Ochain comes in. I can do as many mob groups as I want and I'll likely still kill faster.

  18. #1598
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    That's where the benefit of Ochain comes in. I can do as many mob groups as I want and I'll likely still kill faster. Solo BLU has a harder time now with what they did to cleaving, anyways. I imagine a non-Ochain PLD would too (Not that it's "difficult," just more annoying).
    Why harder now?

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    Edit: Nevermind.

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    There was some rumor started that mobs level up really fast when you AOE them down, but I haven't seen that.

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