Random Question Thread XXII: You Know the Deal

[Gokulo]

Where is the best place to do 300 Plantoids in wind weather? I assume it's somewhere in Wajaom/Bhaflau, but, where is the best camp?

Grauber [S] Grasscaps > Wind weather happens a lot of time there.

[Aemora]

Can THF WHM duo Glavoid, with Earth Wyrm/Shell/Barspells, or is it still an annoying fuck? Friend suggested we start on another Empy, and I don't particularly like the idea of Glavoids taking up my weekend, but if I can do them myself by dual-boxing through the week, I may just give it a shot. Thoughts/Suggestions/Strategies?

[Eldelphia]

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[Byrthnoth]

Can THF WHM duo Glavoid, with Earth Wyrm/Shell/Barspells, or is it still an annoying fuck? Friend suggested we start on another Empy, and I don't particularly like the idea of Glavoids taking up my weekend, but if I can do them myself by dual-boxing through the week, I may just give it a shot. Thoughts/Suggestions/Strategies?

If your WHM subs BLM and is 100% successful at stunning Disgorge, sure. One fuckup and you're gone though. I have never seen a resisted Disgorge, and the only reason we even know it's earth related is because Earth Carol with BRD AF3+2 used to annul it 100% of the time.

It's going to be a much less painful fight for you overall if you go NIN/WAR + WHM/THF. That way you can farm pops (no point in cleaving with only two people really) and kill them pretty easily. Use Migawari, turn when Migawari is down.

[Aemora]

Yeah, I don't have NIN :/ THF DNC BLU (lolCor) are my melee jobs, unless I figure out how to gear my friend's NIN and play that instead and I WHM. I kinda store pop sets on a few accounts I have access to, so cleave that way for KIs. I don't mind, got nothing better to do. Perhaps DNC would be a better notion in that case to stun the Disgorges. <.<

[Byrthnoth]

You can't reliably Violent Flourish Disgorge on Dancer, in my experience. Because he absorbs physical damage when he's readying a TP move, he absorbs your violent flourish and stun doesn't get a chance to proc. I've successfully done it once, but the flourish also did damage that time so I assume I just got it early enough that he hadn't started absorbing yet.

[Julian]

thf/nin and whm/blm, stun disgorges, and it's easy, just will take a bit to kill. Also take care of hate resets if you're 2boxing.

[wop]

Found this on wiki

BLU/WAR + RDM/WHM can duo him very easily. I (BLU) don't engage glavoid at all and just use physical spells to bring him down. This way, there's no chance you'll ever heal him. With Earth Wyrm atma and barstonra you will resist slowga about 95% of the time. His quake and stonega iv did 40-50 to me about 80% of the time. I'm sure you could engage him if you want, but as I was dual boxing the RDM, I found it easier just to stay disengaged. The only issue with this strategy is the hate reset. The RDM needs to be very careful with hate. I found it easier to not cure myself at all with the RDM and only use them for buffs. I just voked after he used blood weapon and got hate back easily. If you get unlucky and he uses dessication before he 2-hours, just be ready to magic fruit the RDM for hate. Disgorge did 600 every time so that was not an issue

Can this be real?

[Byrthnoth]

Can this be real?

I don't understand how he's only taking 600 damage from Disgorge. Other than that, it looks legit. Could try a fight where you literally never heal Glavoid and see what happens. imop, we don't really understand what controls Disgorge damage still.

[Mercilessturtle]

You are going to get wrecked if he does a disgorge before gorge, and that would be some pretty slow kills.

[dasva]

Recently did him with blm 2whms thf and nin. Now I know that's a bit more than what you have but well the thf was never in range just SA/TA after moves/spells if I wasn't busy healing as the whm too. The nin never had migawari up and was also had his attention elsewhere as the other whm too lol. No set bonuses on either whm. And the blm missed half the stuns and there was no danger. Not sure why everyone says hes so dangerous when never saw the nin go into the orange. And no no weird earth resist stuff

[Ophannus]

What's the new floor for Fast Cast? Before the update RDM could cap 50% casting speed by using AF1 hat and AF2 body but the cap's been increased apparently. My question is what's the new cap? Wondering if I should bother putting Loquacious Earring/Estoqueur's Earring/Vivid Strap/+3FC Jewled Collar and Augur's Feet into my Precast macro.

[shepardG]

checked the spellcast forum, but didn't get a response, does anyone have a decent uptodate spellcast for pup?

[dasva]

What's the new floor for Fast Cast? Before the update RDM could cap 50% casting speed by using AF1 hat and AF2 body but the cap's been increased apparently. My question is what's the new cap? Wondering if I should bother putting Loquacious Earring/Estoqueur's Earring/Vivid Strap/+3FC Jewled Collar and Augur's Feet into my Precast macro.

I'd check the cast/recast thread in the math parts. Seems like it's somewhat still being worked out. Or at least how all the things that effect casting time work together and such. Short answer though yeah those earrings might actually be useful now lol.

[Ocara]

Recently did him with blm 2whms thf and nin. Now I know that's a bit more than what you have but well the thf was never in range just SA/TA after moves/spells if I wasn't busy healing as the whm too. The nin never had migawari up and was also had his attention elsewhere as the other whm too lol. No set bonuses on either whm. And the blm missed half the stuns and there was no danger. Not sure why everyone says hes so dangerous when never saw the nin go into the orange. And no no weird earth resist stuff

You got lucky, that's all. Disgorge after gorge can do low or high damage based off... something nobody's bothered to do much research on. Disgorge can also deal 9k to 2 people if you're not as lucky. It's like going 1/1 on dring and going "hey guys I don't know why you think this is so rare!"

[Byrthnoth]

80% is the new Fast Cast floor, I think.

[dasva]

You got lucky, that's all. Disgorge after gorge can do low or high damage based off... something nobody's bothered to do much research on. Disgorge can also deal 9k to 2 people if you're not as lucky. It's like going 1/1 on dring and going "hey guys I don't know why you think this is so rare!"

Well since it did a good dozen or so gorge/disgorges it's not quiet an accurate comparison but yeah I know. It could be random luck or it could be we lucked into doing whatever it takes to keep the dmg low thru the fight.

Don't think we healed it any since the blm was pretty much not allowed to nuke and the nin was capped subtle blow/ dAgi. Also while he did manage to miss most the gorge/disgorges he did manage to stun most the spells lol. Idk maybe we popped glavoids handicapped twin brother

[Byrthnoth]

I've never seen Glavoid's Disgorge do less than 3000 damage divided among the targets. How are you guys taking less damage than that?

[dasva]

I have no idea .

[Ophannus]

Nah that 80% I think is with traits+gear+SCH strategems I think. Wondering what the new cap is with just FC gear.