Convincing Someone to get an Abortion

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:17

Originally Posted by solanis

let me help you out.

1. unmarried couples with a child are statistically unlikely to stay together

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...HHpwdUH1RE3BTA

2. single mothers get all sorts of fucked up by life and so do their kids

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...ZAiRlqBYemc9zw

3. unwanted kids (your friend's child falls into this category) are basically a feeding pool for crime

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...rtion_on_Crime

this should hopefully freak him out enough. you need to be careful to not pressure them though, especially the girl, because it is her reproductive right to give birth, no matter how wasteful and stupid it would be

the real problem is he is going to try to convince me that he is better than the statistics. he'll just be like "well that ain't me, that ain't us" and im gonna be like "im sure everyone in this data said that once upon a time" and then he will just repeat himself and i will be like GDI

**Dimmauk** · 2011-07-12 10:22

This kid could be the next Daunte Culpepper. You wouldnt want that?

**Tyche** · 2011-07-12 10:22

Those stats will mean absolutely shit. You'd have to convince him that the child she wants to keep is unwanted and that he won't be with her forever, which won't be easy, not that he really has a choice in the matter. Convincing him will be a hell of a lot easier than convincing her, and guess who has the ultimate say. If it's a trap pregnancy, he's fucked. Hope she falls down stairs. Is it her first kid? Maybe she'll miscarry. That's not too uncommon.

**Tyche** · 2011-07-12 10:23

Tyven, you're friend is fucked, that's the reality of the situation. A good friend will help bury a body, a great friend will help bury two.

Alarial · 2011-07-12 10:25

Plant the seed in his head that it's probably not his.

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:26

wait, who are the two bodies in this case?

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:27

Originally Posted by Alarial

Plant the seed in his head that it's probably not his.

This one won't work. The obsession level with her to him is just frightening.

**Tyche** · 2011-07-12 10:27

Her and the abomination inside her

**ronin sparthos** · 2011-07-12 10:27

I had this happen to a friend recently and what I tried to do was make the point with the college job he's working and the mother being someone he only fucked for pleasure, the concept of sharing a baby would be a disaster.

Once that baby is born, the two people are linked forever. It was pretty frustrating for me given I could already see if the kid was born that things would fall out quick once the reality set in that babies aren't anything like they appear to be on TV.

Id also ask if they're ready to change diapers, buy diapers, buy food, clothes, toys, read books with this kid, pick him/her up from school, sink money into further education and hold down full time jobs. If they're in school, ask if they're willing to sacrifice their education or employment opportunities for the incoming child.

Drilling home that babies aren't cheap usually puts things into perspective, especially if you're working a min wage shitfest where you barely get paid enough to take care of yourself.

Id focus on dropping statistics and tailoring your argument towards the type of person your roommate is. Press him on what exactly he'll do to make it work and drill home that you can't halfass kids if you really care about them. If that means taking him to the store and doing a tally on costs for simple shit like infant formula and diapers, do it.

If you're close to them then perhaps your argument might be able to pierce the attitude that it'll be 'alright'.

Just don't be surprised if you have to sit back and watch them struggle because they didn't listen to you. Infact, prepare yourself for it.

**Tyche** · 2011-07-12 10:28

Rhetorical question: Is the female white? What's her background? College? How many brother and sisters?

**Kuya** · 2011-07-12 10:28

Cut your losses, tyven bro, and run away from him before he starts scraping your taint for cash to buy deoderant.

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:28

Originally Posted by Tyche

Her and the abomination inside her

oh man abomination made me lol.

**Cream Soda** · 2011-07-12 10:29

Hide the pregnancy, make it look like she's getting fat, have the baby at home, not a hospital, no documentation, sell the baby. If you can't find someone on the black market to buy it, then sell it to the Chinese restaurant. Granted, you'll only get a free plate of boneless spare ribs for it, but better than 18 years of paying for a baby.

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:29

Originally Posted by Tyche

Rhetorical question: Is the female white? What's her background? College? How many brother and sisters?

white. just finished her first semester in grad school. She teaches and tutors just to get by. idk about her sibling situation. My roomie is an only child but one of this big close black families where cousins are referred to as brothers and sisters and shit.

I tried to explain that there is no way she is finishing grad school and he just tells me she will finish. I AM LIKE COME ON BRO.

**solanis** · 2011-07-12 10:29

how did this happen? is she not on birth control, did he not use condoms? TAKE CONTRACEPTION INTO YOUR OWN HANDS PEOPLE

**Kerberoz** · 2011-07-12 10:30

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:31

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

I had this happen to a friend recently and what I tried to do was make the point with the college job he's working and the mother being someone he only fucked for pleasure, the concept of sharing a baby would be a disaster.

Once that baby is born, the two people are linked forever. It was pretty frustrating for me given I could already see if the kid was born that things would fall out quick once the reality set in that babies aren't anything like they appear to be on TV.

Id also ask if they're ready to change diapers, buy diapers, buy food, clothes, toys, read books with this kid, pick him/her up from school, sink money into further education and hold down full time jobs. If they're in school, ask if they're willing to sacrifice their education or employment opportunities for the incoming child.

Drilling home that babies aren't cheap usually puts things into perspective, especially if you're working a min wage shitfest where you barely get paid enough to take care of yourself.

Id focus on dropping statistics and tailoring your argument towards the type of person your roommate is. Press him on what exactly he'll do to make it work and drill home that you can't halfass kids if you really care about them. If that means taking him to the store and doing a tally on costs for simple shit like infant formula and diapers, do it.

If you're close to them then perhaps your argument might be able to pierce the attitude that it'll be 'alright'.

Just don't be surprised if you have to sit back and watch them struggle because they didn't listen to you. Infact, prepare yourself for it.

this is basically the reality i am preparing for. i really dont wanna have to hit him with this "i told you so" The good news is I we have a lot of level headed friends, so once he tells more people I wont be fighting this battle alone and maybe the mob mentality can help him see what a bad idea it is. or it could go opposite. thanks for the advice

**solanis** · 2011-07-12 10:32

Originally Posted by Cream Soda

Hide the pregnancy, make it look like she's getting fat, have the baby at home, not a hospital, no documentation, sell the baby. If you can't find someone on the black market to buy it, then sell it to the Chinese restaurant. Granted, you'll only get a free plate of boneless spare ribs for it, but better than 18 years of paying for a baby.

if it's half-black, the price it'll fetch on the legal adoption circuit will be much lower, and even lower on the black market. seriously though tyven, prepare for the worst. even if you convince him, which I think you can do, if she wants to keep it he's totally fucked.

**tyven** · 2011-07-12 10:32

Originally Posted by solanis

how did this happen? is she not on birth control, did he not use condoms? TAKE CONTRACEPTION INTO YOUR OWN HANDS PEOPLE

he bust all up on her like a dummy. guy has a grip of condoms just sitting in a bowl in his room, this is a part of the reason i think its a trap pregnancy.

**ronin sparthos** · 2011-07-12 10:34

Originally Posted by Cream Soda

Hide the pregnancy, make it look like she's getting fat, have the baby at home, not a hospital, no documentation, sell the baby. If you can't find someone on the black market to buy it, then sell it to the Chinese restaurant. Granted, you'll only get a free plate of boneless spare ribs for it, but better than 18 years of paying for a baby.

Cream.... lol.

@thread

Also yeah, I find people who grew up with younger siblings in the household have a much better understanding of how fun/annoying kids can be than people who are the sole child of their parents.

They are cute and cuddly but they are also fucking annoying and do some pretty silly things that can piss you off if you lack the patience.

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