What's Better?

[Khamsin]

For the rdm melee musings, I just uploaded a DPS spreadsheet for melee rdm. Can have fun with that. Doesn't do enspell 2's yet, though.

Thanks, though I noticed you have Requiescat as 3 extra hits, isn't it 4 (5 hit WS)?

By the way, as long as we're playing with math here, what would happen if you mainhanded a OA2-4 weapon, and offhanded a 999 delay relic base weapon? You could WS every other attack round, couldn't you?

[Neisan]

Does that math factor in enspells?

Sortof, since I was using a modified Prd sheet, so the amount added by enspells is abit lower since Rdm won't have to recast as often.

I'll check out the new sheet though.

[Motenten]

Thanks, though I noticed you have Requiescat as 3 extra hits, isn't it 4 (5 hit WS)?

Hm, yep, messed that up. Was wrong on pld spreadsheet too. Fixed, new versions being uploaded now.

[Firedemon]

Ocelomeh headpiece +1 or Aias bonnet for Blade Jin inside Abyssea?

[Atoreis]

Thanks, though I noticed you have Requiescat as 3 extra hits, isn't it 4 (5 hit WS)?

By the way, as long as we're playing with math here, what would happen if you mainhanded a OA2-4 weapon, and offhanded a 999 delay relic base weapon? You could WS every other attack round, couldn't you?

1263*0.7*0.5=442
11.3 TP per hit
8 hits to get 100 TP after WS
Idk exactly but I will wild guess that avg number of hits per round with that combo is around 3?
So more like WS every 3rd round

[Haborym]

For Blade: Hi outside, Atheling Mantel/Rancor Collar or Rancor Mantle/Hope Torque?

[Khamsin]

1263*0.7*0.5=442
11.3 TP per hit
8 hits to get 100 TP after WS
Idk exactly but I will wild guess that avg number of hits per round with that combo is around 3?
So more like WS every 3rd round

I was assuming /DNC, for 80% DW and 13.7 TP per hit, for 41.1 per attack round on average. After your first WS, you should be able to WS every other round I'd think. Whereas it'd take a comparatively delayed OA2-4 two-hander a few more rounds to accomplish the same thing.

[Atoreis]

I was assuming /DNC, for 80% DW and 13.7 TP per hit, for 41.1 per attack round on average. After your first WS, you should be able to WS every other round I'd think. Whereas it'd take a comparatively delayed OA2-4 two-hander a few more rounds to accomplish the same thing.

Ummm no.
They are far from comparatively delayed.
I havent seen 631 delay 2h weapons yet.
Not to mention massive lack in melee dot with relic dagger combo.

[Khamsin]

Ummm no.
They are far from comparatively delayed.
I havent seen 631 delay 2h weapons yet.
Not to mention massive lack in melee dot with relic dagger combo.

(264 + 999) * .8 / 2 = 505

The OA2-4 GAxe is 514 Delay.

Though you have a point on the DoT, since you'd be mainhanding a 31 damage sword, and offhanding a 1 damage sword, though with enspells and the ability to spam Requiescat every other round (which gets the bulk of it's damage from your ample MND), it might not be so bad. I just haven't worked on the math to see just how good (or bad) it would be.

Another possible advantage is you'd be giving the enemy less TP, with 0 damage hits from your offhand, and enspells don't give TP.

[grevenilvec75]

Another possible advantage is you'd be giving the enemy less TP, with 0 damage hits from your offhand, and enspells don't give TP.

if you hit for 0, you don't get tp either.

[Khamsin]

if you hit for 0, you don't get tp either.

And there's the fatal flaw. They should update the 999 delay relics to at least like 30 damage!

[Atoreis]

(264 + 999) * .8 / 2 = 505

The OA2-4 GAxe is 514 Delay.

Though you have a point on the DoT, since you'd be mainhanding a 31 damage sword, and offhanding a 1 damage sword, though with enspells and the ability to spam Requiescat every other round (which gets the bulk of it's damage from your ample MND), it might not be so bad. I just haven't worked on the math to see just how good (or bad) it would be.

Another possible advantage is you'd be giving the enemy less TP, with 0 damage hits from your offhand, and enspells don't give TP.

You cant write it like that. 505 is delay reduced by DW. Whats the different? The cap of 80% "haste" is set based on delay before DW. So its 126 for your 2-4/relic combo and 103 for 2-4Gaxe. When its pretty irrelevant for solo (because you lack other sources of haste) its still pretty important overall.

[Toth]

Finally got my FFXIAh profile setup and I posted my three PUP WS sets:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247869 Shijin Spiral
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247870 Stringing Pummel
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247871 Victory Smite

Are there any better items I should shoot for? I am already planning to go for Athos gloves and feet if they EVER drop to replace cirque. Please note that I do not want to buy anything over than 1 million gil (maybe 1.5 million...) atm. I was curious if DEX rings and earrings would be worth the investment or would they only offer slight increases.

Thanks!

[Soho]

For Ochain/Almace PLD TP set:
Goading Belt and Blitz Ring vs Phasmida Belt and either Strigoi Ring or Jupiter's Ring augmented with +6Att (or some other better ring)?

Or in other words, is the Enmity +3 on Goading Belt worth losing a ring slot just to cap haste?

[Darkmagi]

5STP* and I highly doubt it, 6acc 6str 3atk or 6acc 6dex 6atk is going to stomp 5STP probably.

[Neisan]

If accuracy isn't an issue can't you just Tyrant's Ring if you really need that STP badly? Not sure how well mars's fares, also an option if you need more accuracy.

[Soho]

You're right, I shouldn't have completely discounted the STP, but I guess I was thinking more from a holding hate perspective. Meaning, is it likely that the other stats would make up for the loss in Enmity+?

[Neisan]

Fairly easily, and will also help you kill your target faster.

[Lyramion]

Finally got my FFXIAh profile setup and I posted my three PUP WS sets:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247869 Shijin Spiral
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247870 Stringing Pummel
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247871 Victory Smite

Are there any better items I should shoot for? I am already planning to go for Athos gloves and feet if they EVER drop to replace cirque. Please note that I do not want to buy anything over than 1 million gil (maybe 1.5 million...) atm. I was curious if DEX rings and earrings would be worth the investment or would they only offer slight increases.

Thanks!

Well for VS these can be nice: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10607/kacura-leggings-1

Also the usual Rancor Items on Back/Neck for crit.

[Toth]

Finally got my FFXIAh profile setup and I posted my three PUP WS sets:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247869 Shijin Spiral
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247870 Stringing Pummel
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/247871 Victory Smite

Are there any better items I should shoot for? I am already planning to go for Athos gloves and feet if they EVER drop to replace cirque. Please note that I do not want to buy anything over than 1 million gil (maybe 1.5 million...) atm. I was curious if DEX rings and earrings would be worth the investment or would they only offer slight increases.

Thanks!

One thing I would like to know: Dex +7 and Dex +3/4 earring better than Epona's ring DA and TA and an Accuracy earring for SS? Also, at what point would a Primary WS Stat + Belt overtake a elemental belt in damage?