What's Better?

**Seol** · 2012-03-03 16:48

For Upheaval, Shadow Breastplate with +1TA +3Zanshin vs Are's cuirass? my real question actually is: Is the difference between them marginal or one is noticeable superior over the other? I have both but I'm running into inventory space troubles, and I already carry Shadow B.plate for regen set.

**Neisan** · 2012-03-03 17:18

Difference is pretty marginal, just use Augmented Shadow.

**fantasticdan** · 2012-03-03 18:34

bst af3 body vs toci's with set bonus for tp? Also, what body should i be using for rampage, one of those, twilight?

**Djohn** · 2012-03-03 19:19

How does the DA+11 axe compare to a STR axe for mainhand? I'm guessing it's better, just want to be sure before I branch away from the OA2-4 path.

**Khamsin** · 2012-03-03 19:35

Originally Posted by Djohn

How does the DA+11 axe compare to a STR axe for mainhand? I'm guessing it's better, just want to be sure before I branch away from the OA2-4 path.

Do you ever plan on getting a Guttler? If so, DA+11 would probably beat STR for offhand in that case.

**Djohn** · 2012-03-03 21:36

Originally Posted by Khamsin

Do you ever plan on getting a Guttler? If so, DA+11 would probably beat STR for offhand in that case.

Probably not, simply because I can't be bothered to farm dynamis that regularly. I guess I might as well make the DA axe though.

**Diddy Kong** · 2012-03-03 23:11

Best non magian katanas for ninja?

**fantasticdan** · 2012-03-04 00:41

Kakesu + kaome or oirandori.

**Foldypaws** · 2012-03-04 01:39

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

Kakesu + kaome or oirandori.

DPS spreadsheet gives me Oirandori + Kaome beating either offhand with Kakesu main.

Edit: That's with Jin though, Shun might be different.

**Ophannus** · 2012-03-04 18:14

I want to use Toci Harness on THF but then I lose 5% haste from Raider's Vest+2. I could make up that haste and still get 26% with Athos' Boots but then I lose 3% TA/3%TA damage from Assassin's Poulaines +2. What do I do? :/

**Saiken** · 2012-03-04 21:17

what do DNC merit now days in t1/t2? thanks in advance

**Nightfyre** · 2012-03-04 21:22

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**Buffy** · 2012-03-04 21:27

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**Ophannus** · 2012-03-04 22:05

Does Toci's Harness+Ocelomeh set have much value on THF?

SA= Loki
Exenterator=Loki
Evisceration=Loki
SA+WS=Loki
TP=Raider+2

If I use Toci's set for TP i lost 5% haste from body and if I use Athos Boots I lose +3% TA/+3% TADamage

**Toth** · 2012-03-05 07:37

For VS, augmented STR +4 WS +2% anwig salade or Athos's chapeau (+8 str)? 2% WS damage is a small but nice increase but I was wondering if that beats out +4 of a primary modifier's stat.

**Diddy Kong** · 2012-03-05 08:31

Salade.

**Classikmage** · 2012-03-05 09:17

Originally Posted by Ophannus

Does Toci's Harness+Ocelomeh set have much value on THF?

SA= Loki
Exenterator=Loki
Evisceration=Loki
SA+WS=Loki
TP=Raider+2

If I use Toci's set for TP i lost 5% haste from body and if I use Athos Boots I lose +3% TA/+3% TADamage

I think the only WS I can see it being used for would be Dancing Edge and Mercy Stroke. As far as TP the triple attack rate/damage feels more advantageous in my opinion unless better options become available next update.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-03-05 10:04

You can make a TP set with Ocelo +1/Toci's that's about as good or better than an AF3+2 set.

**noodles355** · 2012-03-05 10:35

**Neisan** · 2012-03-05 11:03

EDIT: Attempted to replicate your results; redid with set bonus, wasn't being considered for Oce/Toci's at first. Raider's+2 head/Toci's is ahead of Oce/Toci's by like 2 DPS on mine, although my total DPS is slightly lower than yours.

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