What's Better?

[Taim Meich]

I really doubt, even after the nerf, Upheaval from 99 Bravura could beat Ukkos from a 99 Ukon. If it can though, please clear it up for me, so I can sell all the heavy metal I have clogging up my inventory and go buy a Bravura instead.

I did some calculations regarding that here. While not exactly the same situation, it could help you decide if it's worth it. After that I compared Bravura using Upheaval with Ukon using Ukko's Fury to activate aftermath and Upheaval in between, and they didn't difer by much. There's a lot of assumptions to be made there, though, but I think that in the end, the difference won't be much in either case.

[dasva]

What's a good third atma for 1-handed elemental WS brew? I assume the first two are going to be the appropriate elemental attack atma and Smiting Blow for TP Bonus, but since an additional +50 MAB does very little in the face of 900 MAB, what about the third atma? I'm also assuming that, for 2-handed elemental WS brews, that Griffon Claw would be the third atma.

Really depends on the ws. Some have a 2nd elemental attack one. Some smiting blow wont help that much or at all. Some you might be able to boost the ftp of. But yes mab ones are pretty much last on the list and only used if nothing else is adding dmg. Same can be said for 2hd except they always can use smiting blow and/or crushing cudgel

[Churchill]

Rancorous/Windbuffet/Gorget if fairly capped accuracy. I actually haven't looked at how the 3crit collar fairs, but using the gorget alleviates some accuracy issues on harder stuff allowing you to keep using windbuffet. That collar also doesn't exist on Lakshmi/is expensive, and so are HMP's

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

a lvl 90 masamune, or a 95 amano? Which would pull out ahead at 99?

[Dotsudoku]

Best non-Magian/Relic/Empyrean GSD(s) for WAR and DRK?

[Nightfyre]

Best option I'm aware of for WAR is Kriegsmesser. DRK has Gram and beyond that, Hoarfrost Blade/Borealis.

[Churchill]

Jingang has higher BaseD and could probably be 5hit @504D, usable WAR/DRK

Borealis/Hoarfrost for DRK, hopefully something new comes out that WAR can use ;/

[noodles355]

I really doubt, even after the nerf, Upheaval from 99 Bravura could beat Ukkos from a 99 Ukon. If it can though, please clear it up for me, so I can sell all the heavy metal I have clogging up my inventory and go buy a Bravura instead.

The problem with rose strap is that you lose 3% DA from armada and 3% crit from grip to gain 3% triple attack and 10 attack during TP phase, and just straight lose 3% crit rate during Ukkos.

Asking purely because I want to learn (stating as questions often get misinterpreted as arguments on intaweb). Wouldn't Rose Strap open up other options when restraint is down also? I'm sure you could find some sort of 5hit while restraint is down, 6hit while up with Rose, especially if you had access to phorcy's gear. Assuming you need 61STP, you could go with:
Phorcy's, Rancor/Nef, AF3, Brutal
6STP Armadaberk, Ogier's, Tyrant, Rajas
Atheling, Goading, Phorcy's, AF3+2.

Granted it's only 23% Haste. Compared to your current set you'd be trading off 12Att, 5Str, 3%TA, 2%DA, 2~% Haste and 3% Crit During TP phase (And 3% crit during WS) in exchange for 5hitting. Guessing it's not worth it after all... right?

Oh well, enough musing.

[kamugi]

Granted it's only 23% Haste. Compared to your current set you'd be trading off 12Att, 5Str, 3%TA, 2%DA, 2~% Haste and 3% Crit During TP phase (And 3% crit during WS) in exchange for 5hitting. Guessing it's not worth it after all... right?

Moving from 6 hit to 5 hit and changing nothing else is about a 17% Damage increase from everything I ever saw. Quick counting says you're giving up about 17% damage in this stuff, so quick math says they're about the same. Which you should be using is probably more dependent on what you're able to get ahold of/already have honestly.

6STP Armadaberk.

It took me 930~ tatters to get any amount of stp with DA3 on armadaberk, just yesterday I got it actually, and it's 5stp, so I would never do this even if it is better, simply because I can't get that on my armadaberk.

[Guitarman]

nq ocelomah headpiece vs bst af3+2 head? acc isnt a huge issue to me.

[Khajit]

Wsdmg magian club or moepapa mace for whm melee mainhand?

[Strawhat]

I feel kinda silly to ask the same question i asked about a month ago, but what weapon deals the most damage?
i read somewhere on bg that spharai deals more dmg then apoc, with no further explanation

[Khajit]

out of any weapon? And apoc isn't for damage nowadays for drk. Apoc is for the self healing and better pdt sets you can wear while capping haste. Gsword thanks to the merit ws resolution is far superior for drk in terms of damage now. I'm unsure as to which gsword is best but if i had to hazard a guess i'd say oat then relic.

[Darkmagi]

Excluding mythics, 90% sure nothing beats a ragnarok DRK atm for the majority of content.

[Nightfyre]

Loaded question that will never have any degree of consensus for good reason: there is no single ultimate DD across all content in all situations, buff levels, etc.

[Khamsin]

Excluding mythics, 90% sure nothing beats a ragnarok DRK atm for the majority of content.

What about for WAR? Ragnarok or OAT GS? Or stick with Bravura? Let's assume that heavy metal plates are out of the question.

[Nightfyre]

If Bravura is a reasonable option, 99 Ukon is absolutely a reasonable option.

[geno3302]

WS belt or Beir belt +1 for Shoha/Kaiten? Also Justiciar's Torque or gorget for Shoha/Kaiten?

[Khamsin]

If Bravura is a reasonable option, 99 Ukon is absolutely a reasonable option.

For me, Bravura is way more attainable than Ukon. I swim in currency, but 1500 metal plates + riftstuff cost so much more than that. Not to mention the torture of actually getting glavoid shells in the first place, and finding 1500 plates. Currency is just way more available, and easier.

[kamugi]

For me, Bravura is way more attainable than Ukon. I swim in currency, but 1500 metal plates + riftstuff cost so much more than that. Not to mention the torture of actually getting glavoid shells in the first place, and finding 1500 plates. Currency is just way more available, and easier.

But you could sell currency and buy shells and plates and whatever else.

So whats better? 99 Bravura spamming upheavel or 99 Ukon spamming Ukkos?
Assuming the accuracy on Bravura isn't need to cap hit rate, since that would obviously skew everything into Bravuras favor and that's the one time Bravura would definitely be better.