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    That is pretty lame

    3%, Could have at least made it 5%. not Like it matters much. I like how it looks, and This game is like pulling teeth, I may as well find enjoyment in it in some form or another, even if its aesthetics. Exactly how far behind a Flame Thock is it? On average. I know it varies depending on mobs DEF amongst other things.

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    I have only done the comparison for DNC, but it's less than 1% behind in every situation I've found as a Twashtar offhand. For some reason it came out about the same as a mainhand with any offhand. Coruscanti offhand with it was a little bit better than Coruscanti/Fire Thokcha, I think.

    I think it mostly comes from the increased TP gain due to lower delay pushing it down a TP bump or something. It might be entirely different for THF.

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    Mandau and Thwast have same Delay, But We have 1 less tier of Dual wield, and wouldnt have Haste Samba up all the time if you considered that. So I guess that could influence it some degree. Either way, I own both weapons, Guess i'll use my Aluh when i want to feel pretty D:

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    Porthos/Koga Hakama +2 over Chainmail/Byakko's Haidate (STP+4/Crit Damage +4) inside Abyssea?

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    Thaumas/Koga over both. Chainmail/Koga til then.

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    Is Moetenten's spreadsheet updated and accurate? I really don't see how, for THF, AF3+2 body is better than Thaumas body. It's telling me that anything harder than Fodder mobs and AF3+2 body will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihina View Post
    Is Moetenten's spreadsheet updated and accurate? I really don't see how, for THF, AF3+2 body is better than Thaumas body. It's telling me that anything harder than Fodder mobs and AF3+2 body will win.
    Thaumas Body seems to be missing haste on the sheet I have, yours might be the same. Check your gearlist tab. For a stronger mob Euxine+3 was ahead of Emp body, so Thaumas with correct stats will be as well.

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    There we go, that fixed it. Thanks.

    I also noticed that it still had THF's TA value at 10. Had to change that too.

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    How's Thaumus fair as a V. Smite head; what's better than it if anything? I'm assuming the crit rate probably trumps most if not all other choices, but haven't really looked into other choices.

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    Second best to

    http://i39.tinypic.com/m83fxz.png.

    On > Lv. 99 content, you'd need at least 2 attack for that^ to be better. This is assuming you're also using Thaumas Kecks, obviously. Thaumas Hat is going to be further behind without the set bonus. And if you're going to benefit from the Accuracy, Shura is obviously definitively better. Oh, and with Imeptus up, Shura +1 will always win.

    It's a great Hi piece though. '~'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    For Resolution Drk: Ogier's Legs or Bale+2
    For Shoha Sam: Ogier's Legs or Avant+1


    Bale+2
    Avant+1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan View Post
    Thaumas Body seems to be missing haste on the sheet I have, yours might be the same. Check your gearlist tab. For a stronger mob Euxine+3 was ahead of Emp body, so Thaumas with correct stats will be as well.
    Bleh. I entered the haste for the Euxine/Thaumas line starting in the wrong cell, so the first 2% went to Enkidu, while 4% went to Euxine +3 instead of Thaumas (and Euxine +1 was also incorrect at 3% instead of 2%). Will fix in the next upload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihina View Post
    There we go, that fixed it. Thanks.

    I also noticed that it still had THF's TA value at 10. Had to change that too.
    I dropped that because there was a point where the next upgrade tier was removed. If it's been put back in, I'll re-add it to the spreadsheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    I dropped that because there was a point where the next upgrade tier was removed. If it's been put back in, I'll re-add it to the spreadsheet.
    There is a whole bunch of newer war gear missing too if you find time. Like all of Warrior +2. Nothing I can't add myself, but it sucks re-adding every time the sheet is updated.

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    On WAR, would a 95 rag/resol beat 90 ukon in VW? Everywhere else?

    Seen some pretty snazzy numbers with rag/resol... but those were DRKs fulltiming souleaters, not WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsex View Post
    There is a whole bunch of newer war gear missing too if you find time. Like all of Warrior +2. Nothing I can't add myself, but it sucks re-adding every time the sheet is updated.
    Any time you want gear added, send me a PM of the specific items. I don't even attempt to keep up with all the gear available for every single job, as it already takes me a good 8-12 hours each time I need to update all the spreadsheets to fix bugs or add/revise features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    it already takes me a good 8-12 hours each time I need to update all the spreadsheets to fix bugs or add/revise features.
    You're just te awesomest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Any time you want gear added, send me a PM of the specific items. I don't even attempt to keep up with all the gear available for every single job, as it already takes me a good 8-12 hours each time I need to update all the spreadsheets to fix bugs or add/revise features.
    Will do.

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    I saw a NIN wearing a new body with haste +5%, TA+2%, and attack +10, his pants were AF2+2. Is there a possibility that that Body and Legs combo is superior as long as he haste caps in other slots?

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