What's Better?

[GoggleHead]

For what its worth I've got elemental skill merits maxed out. RDM is my only mage job and I tend to play it aggressively, so it made sense to put merits there. Honestly I'm just trying to figure out if praeco would be a worthwhile upgrade or if I should just stick with AF3+2 until I get around to landing some event gear.

[Darkmagi]

I would just stick to af3+2, added benefit of refresh while nuking isn't too terrible either.

[Nightfyre]

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It was a generalized response. Reminder that I said "if you play the relevant jobs much." I shouldn't have to explain that merits are of minimal value if you rarely/never play a job.

[Khamsin]

How does Praeco Doublet beat Teal Saio? Teal Saio has MAB, and I didn't think that an extra 9 INT would beat 4 MAB.

[Nightfyre]

I can't think of any INT-based nuke in the game, black magic or otherwise, for which 9 INT isn't superior to 4 MAB given mid to high-end gear.

[Khamsin]

I can't think of any INT-based nuke in the game, black magic or otherwise, for which 9 INT isn't superior to 4 MAB given mid to high-end gear.

Don't forget, we're talking RDM here which doesn't get as much MAB as a BLM would. Plus, their based damage is limited to T4 nukes.

If, in a given situation on a given mob, a T4 nuke does 1000 damage before you add day/weather/affinity bonuses, then 9 more INT would add 9 * 2 damage for 1018 damage. A RDM with MAB III + 50 MAB in gear has 78 MAB. Adding 4 more adds about 2.25% damage, and brings that 1000 nuke up to 1022.

In the above example, you'd either need +11 INT to compensate for that 4 MAB, or you'd need 122 MAB to make +9 INT equal to an additional 4 MAB.

So if you're in abyssea using Ultimate, then yeah, the INT will start to win out. But outside, the MAB will likely be the better option.

[Nightfyre]

Hellooooooooo asspull.

T4 nukes all have V less than 550. There's absolutely no way you're getting a sufficient base value unless you're brewing, which also grants 900 MAB. Impact might manage it, but it has a M value of ~2.33.

[nivlakian]

If, in a given situation on a given mob, a T4 nuke does 1000 damage before you add day/weather/affinity bonuses, then 9 more INT would add 9 * 2 damage for 1018 damage. A RDM with MAB III + 50 MAB in gear has 78 MAB. Adding 4 more adds about 2.25% damage, and brings that 1000 nuke up to 1022.

You have to include your current MAB with the int you're adding. 9 more int in your scenario would be adding 9 * 2 * 1.78 = ~32

[Darkmagi]

Full Thaumas or 4/5 Thaumas and Athos's body for exenterator? Also 23% haste with af3+2 hands or brego/thaumas/dusk+1 for capped?

[Khamsin]

You have to include your current MAB with the int you're adding. 9 more int in your scenario would be adding 9 * 2 * 1.78 = ~32

Good point, forgot about that.

By the way, anyone have ideas about...

For BST TP, would Toci's, Phorcys, or Porthos be better for situations when your killer effect AF3+2 body bonus isn't kicking in? And for Ruinator? Assuming capped haste, and an appropriate headgear to match.

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[Bigsyke]

Full Thaumas or 4/5 Thaumas and Athos's body for exenterator? Also 23% haste with af3+2 hands or brego/thaumas/dusk+1 for capped?

I think 4/5 Thaumas and tassera are the better option followed by 5/5 Thaumas. Also, what job are you talking about? Could be RNG for all we know.

[ccl]

SAM TP: Ganesha's Mala+Misuuchi Kappa vs Unkai Nodawa+Atheling Mantle? Not looking for answers like "Gear towards Hassozanshin", just which of those options is better.

Atheling/nodowa when you need the attack, Ganesha/misuu when you don't.

[Diddy Kong]

Full Thaumas or 4/5 Thaumas and Athos's body for exenterator? Also 23% haste with af3+2 hands or brego/thaumas/dusk+1 for capped?

5/5 Thaumas for exenterator unless you have either a kudzu aketon or tessera saio.

[jzero]

hi guys.. sorry for the sudden change of subject. I'm not sure if this is the right place but can someone tell me whats better between haste n' dual wield?
i just got nin99 n' trying to get a good tp set... and i have issues deciding gear pieces cuz idk the differences between DW n' haste.

Iga's legs(haste) or Koga's legs(DW)

the same for bodies but this is more of a curious Q. ^^

Ninja's +1(DW + shock spikes) or Kogas +2(DW + stats).

these are random tips i got now to me all sounds good.. but i dont wanna do them all.
Thanks

[Darkmagi]

Sorry should have clarified on job, THF and DNC for WS obviously, THF for tp.

[shaggnix]

hi guys.. sorry for the sudden change of subject. I'm not sure if this is the right place but can someone tell me whats better between haste n' dual wield?
i just got nin99 n' trying to get a good tp set... and i have issues deciding gear pieces cuz idk the differences between DW n' haste.

Iga's legs(haste) or Koga's legs(DW)

the same for bodies but this is more of a curious Q. ^^

Ninja's +1(DW + shock spikes) or Kogas +2(DW + stats).

these are random tips i got now to me all sounds good.. but i dont wanna do them all.
Thanks

haste will affect both your attack speed and your utsu timers, where DW will only affect your attack speed. as to the body choices, assuming the DW enhancement is equal, go for stats. i'm fairly certain theres better body options available than either tho, but i'm not into nin much anymore so idk what they are off the top of my head.

[Nightfyre]

Koga Chainmail +2 is 3% DW, don't use it.

Generally speaking you can get 20%+ gear haste a lot easier than you can get DW, so you can usually go with the DW option unless the haste piece has significantly more haste or other attractive stats. Twilight Belt over Nusku's, Thaumas > Ninja Chainmail > anything else (assuming acc capped). Legs are a little more situational given that augmented Haidate can get some pretty sexy stats... Pre-Thaumas you'd use Koga Hakama +2 unless the DEX was taking you from dDEX<40 to cap, with Thaumas Coat you'll want to stick to Koga +2 regardless. If you have Marches or Embrava then DW options become much less favorable; Shinobi Ring can also alter builds somewhat.

[jzero]

thanks for the tips n' info ^^
btw if anyone can give me a more direct help on gear, etc... i'm in bahamut > Jzero

[shen]

Critique my Jishnu's set please. Been away for awhile so not sure of all available alternatives so feel free to name 'em off:

Vulcan/Brave/Gandiva/Ammo
Cuauhtli +1/Ele Gorget/Jupiter's Pearl/Moonshade (TP Bonus)
Loki's/Hachiryu Kote/Thundersoul/Rajas
Rancor/Ele Belt/Augmented Byakko/Kacura+1

I've heard Khepri pieces are good but no luck locating any yet. I know Athos Tabard and Gloves are better than what I have now. Anything else? Does Rancor Mantle + Ele Gorget beat Terebellum/Amemet+1 + Rancor Collar in all circumstances (inc Abyssea)?

No Oneiros yet. On /WAR, does Aluh Jambiya beat Yataghan (w/ Crit damage +6%) outside of Abyssea?

Thanks.

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[Diomer]

Toci's Harness or Loki's (no Althos) on Rudra's Storm stacked with either SA or TA as THF. Speaking of Toci's, what are the other logical uses for Toci's?