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  1. #2861
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    I'd say fire path is a great offhand for damage, while wind path is great for the huge chunk of evasion. Though wind path is easier to do by far (and cheaper).

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    I parsed 70% Acc on Morta two nights ago with RCB/Aggressor/Stalwart's. Admittedly, I switched to a lower-rating weapon at least once each fight, but it was still disheartening.

    I pretty much have Valiant locked into my third Atmacite slot at the moment, so I only need 20% Haste in gear. (I tested, it is gear haste.) I was thinking about something like this:
    set


    This set would represent a 25 Acc jump over my current set. I suspect +25 Acc would actually cap me with a GAxe. Realistically, if I am going to be changing weapons a lot (especially to 1H) the real solution is just to eat some pizza and shed a quiet tear for my attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I parsed 70% Acc on Morta two nights ago with RCB/Aggressor/Stalwart's.
    What was your total acc (minus stalwarts) Trying to get a ballpark on the evasion. (Also, Stalwart's is ~+25 acc?)

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    I was swapping weapons to proc, so it's hard to know.

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    His numbers are misleading

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    Quick math says the first one.

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    In the meantime until I get Toci's and Phorcys bodies (for TPing and for Ruinating, respectively), what's better on mobs where the BST AF3 killer effect bonus does not work:

    AF3+2 Body: Acc+18 Atk+18 Axe Skill+7
    Porthos Byrnie: Atk+10 TA+3%
    Kudzu Aketon: STR+10 Atk+13 DA+3% Store TP+5

    For TPing, and for WSing?

    Would Porthos be better for TPing for the TA+3% despite having less attack? Or would Kudzu beat Porthos for TPing, due to the STR/higher attack (and DA instead of TA isn't a total loss)? As for WSing, Kudzu looks like the better WS body until I get Toci/Phorcys.

    Let's assume that the Store TP doesn't make or break any X-hit builds.

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    I think Porthos Byrnie is TA+2%.

    TP: Porthos Byrnie > Kudzu Aketon > Ferine Gausape +2
    WS: Kudzu Aketon > Ferine Gausape +2 > Porthos Byrnie

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    90 Ukon or 99 Ragnarok?

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    Looking to renew Ukon TP/WS sets, both 5 hit and 6 hit. What is the best stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Looking to renew Ukon TP/WS sets, both 5 hit and 6 hit. What is the best stuff?
    Still not worth 5-hitting. A decent 6-hit would be
    Phorcys/Rancor/Brutal/Ravager's
    Valkyrie/Phorcys/tyrant's/brutal
    Atheling/Phos/Ravager's/Ravager's

    WS
    Mekira+1/gorget/brutal/moonshade
    Phorcys/Phorcys/Pyrosoul/Pyrosoul
    Atheling/Windbuffet/Ogier's/Ravager's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprint View Post
    90 Ukon or 99 Ragnarok?
    For WAR? Ukon

    In general they are two top tier weapons in the right hands.

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    With the huge power of Resolution, and Ragnarok's extra acc compensationg the skill difference, plus the extra 14% crit during a longer TP phase... Isn't Rag better? I know the spreadsheets are not the ultimate truth, but they show a very big difference against Qilin. Probably the difference will shrink on harder stuff, but... That much? I'm not saying Rag is clearly superior, but I think there's a lot of reasons to at least doubt.

    Specially against 90 only Ukon.

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    Pretty sure it depends on lvl3 aftermath usage and obviously monster defense. I'd say ragnarok is top for any fodder at least, maybe some lower VW nms.

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    You probably didn't select proper AM3 settings for Ukon/remove MS (which is on in any WAR sheet you download)

    I have 90Ukon ahead slightly any time you can maintain AM3, 99Ukon ahead by leaps if you can maintain AM3, still ahead if you can maintain AM1.

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    I just put 20% ODD on Ragna, which is slightly worse than 16% occ 2.5xdmg, if I'm not mistaken, and put 30% ODD on Ukon. Isn't that correct?

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    AM3 is 50% ODD

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    THF TP:AF3+2 head/Thaumas Body/(Hands)/AF3+2 legs/AF2+2Feet, what do I use on hands to TP on THF, 3+2 hands or Brego? The +3%haset/DA gloves are not an option atm. Thanks in advance!

  20. #2880
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    Same question for me, but with thaumas legs instead of af3+2^

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