What's Better?

[Khamsin]

Scenario:
Haste at 25% (1000/1024)
1 Store TP away from one less hit to 100% (Consistently hitting 98% TP, and my calculations show I need just 1 more STP)

Options:
Hasty Pinion: +1% Haste to truly cap out, -5 STP (which doesn't add any hits to 100%)
White Tathlum/Hagneia Stone: +2/3 STP (which puts me one less hit to 100%, but leaves me at 1000/1024 haste)

What's better?

[Neisan]

What's the rest of your gear, I can tell you right now hasty pinion is almost never worth it.

[Khamsin]

x/x/x/Demonry Core
Ocelo +1/AF3/Suppa/Brutal
Toci's/Brego/Rajas/Epona's
Atheling/Twilight/AF3/AF3

As for the weapons, right now I'm using DA+11% axe and a PDT-10% axe, but once Guttler is finished, that'll be Guttler/DA+11%.

I'm just thinking of replacing the demonry core with a STP ammo when engaged. I have a different set when not engaged (for pet bonuses) that I can still use Demonry Core for.

My current axes are 6.3 TP per hit, without any STP (and still will be, with Guttler/DA+11% instead).

[Neisan]

EDIT: Corrected math, Hagneia is slightly ahead in that setup.

[Churchill]

In general, assuming you're not sitting on TP or your WS benefits from over TP'ing, that STP option is going to be better.

[Nightfyre]

Haste at 25% (1000/1024)

Eh?

[Khamsin]

Eh?

er.. 250/1024

[ybb]

scenerio: anything outside of abyssea, using brokesbane or stardiver.

gungnir or ryunohige?
I'm wondering what I won't regret having spent my money and time on. I don't mind the time or effort needed for the mythic, even if it's only slightly better (be that the case). I was thinking the gungnir originally, but I can't help but think that the ryu trumps it with aftermath. But then I don't want to have to cap acc. in my gear set... it seems like a waste >< Please help! Thank you in advance <3

[Dathus]

Ryunohige is top polearm for DRG, hands down IIRC.

[Yugl]

scenerio: anything outside of abyssea, using brokesbane or stardiver.

gungnir or ryunohige?
I'm wondering what I won't regret having spent my money and time on. I don't mind the time or effort needed for the mythic, even if it's only slightly better (be that the case). I was thinking the gungnir originally, but I can't help but think that the ryu trumps it with aftermath. But then I don't want to have to cap acc. in my gear set... it seems like a waste >< Please help! Thank you in advance <3

Ryunohige.

[shaggnix]

hard to compete with OA2-3 aftermath and the DB dmg + when fully upgraded. also a lot easier to upgrade to 99 than relic. iirc, there were a few situations where gungnir MIGHT parse SLIGHTLY ahead of ryu at lv 90/95, but they were few and far between and usualy involved unccaped acc w/ ryu and being unable to maintain AM3. in any type of Zerg or steady-non-stop-killing (like dyna) ryu is top dog. gung might pull ahead in something like nyzul where you run around a lot and can't maintain AM3, but honestly it wouldn't be by much. with alex prices where they're at, ryu is both more expensive AND theres significantly more leg work involved with all the tokens/ichor/zeni/trophies/titles/etc.

that being said, gungnir is still a solid weapon. if i could do it all over again i'd have made an OAT lance to hold me over (its not that far behind gungnir) while i made my ryu.

[Byrthnoth]

Drakesbane damage +30%. Gungnir is never going to win unless your Acc is shit.

[vitali]

scenerio: anything outside of abyssea, using brokesbane or stardiver.

gungnir or ryunohige?
I'm wondering what I won't regret having spent my money and time on. I don't mind the time or effort needed for the mythic, even if it's only slightly better (be that the case). I was thinking the gungnir originally, but I can't help but think that the ryu trumps it with aftermath. But then I don't want to have to cap acc. in my gear set... it seems like a waste >< Please help! Thank you in advance <3

when alex was around 3k, I bought my first 16k alex. Came back in january, and took me 2 months to finish while prices were 10-15k. I spent around 210 mil total.

Having had ryu at 99 for about 3-4 weeks, I regret nothing! It's an amazing weapon that completely changes Dragoon from a lackluster dd to something amazing.

I don't have any issues with AM3 in any situation, really. It's a joke in VW, it's not an issue with NI either, but then again most mobs dont last that long anyway. On floors you're not killing, you're getting TP from embravra/meditate/building tp while waiting to go up a floor(and I save my dusty wing for the 100 boss). /sam, and spirt/soul jump make it easy to get up to 300tp once you get used to the timing (status timer helps a lot too).

[ybb]

hard to compete with OA2-3 aftermath and the DB dmg + when fully upgraded. also a lot easier to upgrade to 99 than relic. iirc, there were a few situations where gungnir MIGHT parse SLIGHTLY ahead of ryu at lv 90/95, but they were few and far between and usualy involved unccaped acc w/ ryu and being unable to maintain AM3. in any type of Zerg or steady-non-stop-killing (like dyna) ryu is top dog. gung might pull ahead in something like nyzul where you run around a lot and can't maintain AM3, but honestly it wouldn't be by much. with alex prices where they're at, ryu is both more expensive AND theres significantly more leg work involved with all the tokens/ichor/zeni/trophies/titles/etc.

that being said, gungnir is still a solid weapon. if i could do it all over again i'd have made an OAT lance to hold me over (its not that far behind gungnir) while i made my ryu.

when alex was around 3k, I bought my first 16k alex. Came back in january, and took me 2 months to finish while prices were 10-15k. I spent around 210 mil total.

Having had ryu at 99 for about 3-4 weeks, I regret nothing! It's an amazing weapon that completely changes Dragoon from a lackluster dd to something amazing.

I don't have any issues with AM3 in any situation, really. It's a joke in VW, it's not an issue with NI either, but then again most mobs dont last that long anyway. On floors you're not killing, you're getting TP from embravra/meditate/building tp while waiting to go up a floor(and I save my dusty wing for the 100 boss). /sam, and spirt/soul jump make it easy to get up to 300tp once you get used to the timing (status timer helps a lot too).

Thanks a ton for sharing your first hand exp. <3 I've decided to go ahead with the grind for the ryu ^^y I was already building an OAT lance, so it helps me to know that it will actually be a worthwhile staple until I finally finish the project... I was a little worried about that. Might wait for alex to drop a little before I start stockpiling them though... I figure once more people start learning how to spam nyzul isle, it'll go down at least a little bit. Just stashing my money for the time when it dips ;o. I've still got plenty of other things to accomplish before that stage anyway, lol.

Thanks again, I really appreciate the responses :3

[Arthars]

Ok, so I think I saw this asked a couple times but I never saw an answer and I'm interested myself:

How does Borealis compare to OAT99 for Resolution spam on DRK?

Borealis will win in a situation where u will get buffs and unlimited tp like VW. I have no idea how it stands in a normal situation....

im more concerned abt borealis vs ragnarok, so far in VW, i have always outparse damage alot of ragnarok drks

Maybe they spam slow, maybe they didnt have macros for temps, maybe they didnt have the right atmacite but i thought by now everyone should be using the top 3 DD atma anyway.....

and also i know there maybe be weakness proc etc in between so damage output may not be wat it looks like to compare damage output. But for sure my Borealis resolution is doing 10% more better averages than the 6-7 ragnarok drk i came across. However i do spam 1.5 times more WS than them, and they do have more melee damage/swings than me.

This makes me wonder if i should still do ragnarok for a sidegrade or a mandau

[Cairthenn]

Parse hardly means anything, especially if you're running with pickups. My MNK parses 25% some of the time, even with a few H2H procs, simply because people have no idea what they're doing.

You'd have to do relevant math. I'll consider doing it if I end up making Rag..I'm sure someone who actually cares will do it before then though. :D

[Arthars]

random pickup are random pickups

but the pickups i go with are only with people who knows what they are doing. but still, like i said, i parse for average resolution mainly, not for epeen top damage overall cos its redundant in VW

we know who sucks on our server XD

i have currencies almost rdy, lacking 3000ish only but still cant decide mandau or rag

[Djohn]

Well, I guess for now I can keep trying Ig and I'll worry about whether OAT is worth it when I actually get around to leveling DRK (it's next on my list). Thanks.

Now if only Ig would drop something besides Wroth Scythe...

[Arthars]

took me 300ish runs

i know people who took 1000s

at least its super easy now to kill him

[Limlight]

question about mekira +1 and mostly my entropy/cata sets. Using it on proc day vs using it on a non proc days. Do people just use it fulltime even on non proc days? Cata, Entropy, Reso, ukko's etc? Having my sc adjusted by the guy who does it for me would be a complete pain in our asses. I'm not even sure if he would know how to set it up for proc/non proc days. Hence my question about mekira +1 and just using it period for ws's.