What's Better?

[TheDirtyHobo]

Imagine if you did 14k every WS (you won't, that's an outlier with 300TP to be sure).

got higher with ogopogo, but i cheated with brew

Not quite.

[Deader2818]

that 11k wasnt brewed, he was saying he got higher on the VNM but he was brewed ont he VNM.

[TheDirtyHobo]

The 11k was on a piercing weak mob, the 14k was brewed. You certainly aren't going to be doing anywhere near "14k on every WS" even with 300tp and lots of luck.

[Cyprias]

Cerb mantle +1 or Atheling mantle for Vsmite (Inside)?

[Atoreis]

Cerb mantle +1 or Atheling mantle for Vsmite (Inside)?

Atheling

[Toth]

For PUP Victory Smite WSing,

Thoughts on Alcide Harness +1? STR +6. accuracy +11, SB, and enhances critical hit damage (3-4%?)?

Since we can't wear Loki's, could this be a viable option or does the dex +8. accuracy and attack +20 of the empy body +2 win out in most situations?

Also, STR +5/6 ring or Epona's for WSing?

[Byrthnoth]

The 11k was on a piercing weak mob, the 14k was brewed. You certainly aren't going to be doing anywhere near "14k on every WS" even with 300tp and lots of luck.

Yeah, that's why I used it as the extreme case to illustrate my point that doing 14000 damage every 100 TP 95% of the time wouldn't be better than doing a 5k evisceration 100% of the time on trash mobs. Also, for a brewed Rudra's, that's actually quite a bit less than I'd expect is possible. My 9k in the same thread was literally the first WS I did to an EM Blood Bat in Tahrongi without attack food. I'd put my 300TP average there around 7k (parser was still broken). Floor 4 Rampart in Bhaflau (lolSalvage), he hit 8.6k and I was around 8.4 I think (birds, so piercing weak again). LBC, I broke 3k.

As it is, we can set ourselves up to one-shot every other monster when solo, or we can one-shot every monster. Most things don't have enough HP to need the skillchain damage from Rudra's->Rudra's to kill them. Err... this is more difficult to explain than I thought. The problem I run into is that I'm choosing between using Reverse Flourish and Climactic, because Climactic+Reverse is only be efficient if the monster has ~8-10k HP. So I can make my WS do 50% more damage, or I can avoid messing up my finishing move cycle and WS the next trash monster at the start.

It's really a pretty fun time to play Dancer. This is the first time I've ever really had to adjust my playstyle.

[Aemora]

From the Bonanza... THF Vest +1 items (to instantly upgrade it to +2) or Love Torque? Currently have the Agasaya's and Kuriba Beads for neck, so it'd be DEX+1 Dagger+7, but also have Rapparee Harness so it'd be Haste+1% Dagger +5 (DEX+10 whilst meleeing, and set proc, but got Loki's so...)

Halp! I NEED HALP!!

[Byrthnoth]

From the Bonanza... THF Vest +1 items (to instantly upgrade it to +2) or Love Torque? Currently have the Agasaya's and Kuriba Beads for neck, so it'd be DEX+1 Dagger+7, but also have Rapparee Harness so it'd be Haste+1% Dagger +5 (DEX+10 whilst meleeing, and set proc, but got Loki's so...)

Halp! I NEED HALP!!

Love Torque for sure, if you don't have it. Shaula is a total push over, and the harder of the two pop items sells for 10-15k (at least on Lakshmi)

[Haborym]

I'm in the process of moving over to Yugl's MNK.xml. Does anyone have a good example of any of the minor tweaks between he gear sets? Mainly the different VSmite sets.

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<group name="Abyssea-R">
            <set name="TP-H2H-ACC">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-H2H-HASTE" baseset="TP-H2H-ACC">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-H2H-EVA" baseset="TP-H2H-HASTE">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-H2H-DEX" baseset="TP-H2H-HASTE">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-KICK-ACC">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-KICK-HASTE" baseset="TP-KICK-ACC">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-KICK-EVA" baseset="TP-KICK-HASTE">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="TP-KICK-DEX" baseset="TP-KICK-HASTE">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-ACC-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-ACC-Berserk" baseset="Victory Smite-ACC-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-ATT-N" baseset="Victory Smite-ACC-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-ATT-Berserk" baseset="Victory Smite-ATT-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-DEX-N" baseset="Victory Smite-ATT-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Victory Smite-DEX-Berserk" baseset="Victory Smite-ATT-N">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
            <set name="Hundred Fists">
                <slot>Example</slot>
            </set>
        </group>
        <group name="Abyssea-NM" inherit="Abyssea-R"/>
        <group name="Outside-R" inherit="Abyssea-R" default="yes"/>
        <group name="Outside-NM" inherit="Outside-R" />

[Manque]

I chose love torque last bonanza and have zero regrets. Honestly, you will have many more chances to get THF body done in the near future, start your own /sh group, join one etc., than you will have chances to do JoL. The pops for JoL are significantly harder to get than any seal NM.

[Deadgye]

You can duo Shaula easily with thf and blm imo. It's much, much harder to get a love torque then it is to get 10 body seals.

[Dragir]

Using a "what's better" for brewing scenario to ask the following, mainly:

Are Sanguine Blade and other magic-damage weapon skills (such as Wildfire and Flash Nova)
affected by the Weapon Skill:DMG.:+10% effect on Trial of the Magians weapons?

I want to assume the answer is yes, but I can't find confirmation anywhere.
An extra 10% on 15k/45k would be something to work on right away if so.
That, and INT+9/Magic Atk. Bonus +10 for the off-hand, of course.

[Byrthnoth]

They certainly are, although you can't use a WS damage+10% weapon with Wildfire (but you can use Griffon's Claw with Vulcan's Staff).

Paladins finish the WS Damage+10% trial pretty quickly using Shield Mastery.

[Churchill]

PUP VSmite:

If you have the same setup for WS that I'm looking at, Alcide's will perform 0.003% better than AF3+2.

Moogle body with STR/DEX is a big improvement though.

[Haborym]

Is it worth making a dDex set for Vsmite? If so, how is this?

[Arthars]

it can be good if u can reach dDex....which u still need some dexwith that gear on some EPs (my nin hit ddex with + 74 dex hume on dynamis xarc EPs)

if not saccing too much str, you can use demonry core,Vigilance mantle +1, an osode to hit ddex...but will it be better? perhaps. but on EM+ you prolly just wanna go all str/att

[Haborym]

Ok thanks

[Hercule]

Ok, so Bonanza deal question:

Valhalla Helm or Nocturnus Helm? (Mainly for Fell Cleave session on WAR)

Nocturnus Helm proc activation is 5%, so its 5% vs 5% but, the N.Helm cure you the DMG you take, but V.Helm guive you All DMG -5%, But V.Helm guive a Slow +5% so idk -_-

Help me

[Michelob]

I took Valhalla Helm because I find it to have more uses overall.