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    I'm working on various Axes for Bst, should I go with Magic Evasion or Magic Defense Bonus? I stopped playing for a bit so I'm not sure if one was found out to be better.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Askar body or AF3+2 body for WAR? Assuming I don't need the acc or the extra stp from AF3+2 body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    I seem to recall it was too, however with the higher triple attack we now have, brutal weakens off a bit. And I think someone mathed a dex or attack earring as better. Also possibly Raider's Earring too.

    Regarding to SA/TAing in full haste gear, I'm not so sure. I've been wondering if the chance to proc a level up is dependant on the damage you deal on that hit. It would explain why there's an increase in level ups on SA when using the AF3+2 gloves, and also why it's easier to proc on weaker mobs. As mentioned melee hit proc rate is shit anyway, it might be worth going for power for if that is the case and stronger hit = higher chance at proc.
    For general DDing, as mentioned some pieces there are tradeoffs of dex/agi/att vs haste. Things like AF3+2 legs vs tumbler trunks, etc as mentionedin my last post. I still use Denali Bonnet for Trick Attack. Intend to replace it with Skadi's Visor when I do some more SSR and LAC puts out. Fairly sure they're pretty equal but the latter gives me inv-1 as i can ditch aurore beret for solo SATA.
    Past the initial 7 proc it seems like when my ODD procs on my SA/TA it has a higher chance to proc TH again, but eyeballing, no evidence or w/e. But a theory I'd be willing to believe nonetheless.

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    Wbody should be able to get INT and/or MAB augments, so if you're willing to work for Synergy augments that should be the top max damage nuking body. Anhur obviously trashes everything for macc which is nice since it's great for several builds but frustrating in that it's a pain in the dick to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamil View Post
    Askar body or AF3+2 body for WAR? Assuming I don't need the acc or the extra stp from AF3+2 body.
    Askar. The moment you don't need the acc/stp from Emp body is the moment you should look into getting a new TP body.

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    I dont remember where i saw it but which is better off hand for twashtar str kila or tp bonus dagger?

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    TP bonus for rudra spam, str otherwise I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    TP bonus for rudra spam, str otherwise I believe.
    Well imo Twilight Knife is still a really good offhand for DNC. Stealing TP is really great for both offense and defense and stealing HP and 3% QA ( which is equivalent of Double attack +9% with almost no diminishing returns and with priority over TA and DA ) evens out DPS and probably avg WS damage vs STR kila.

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    How much does it affect not getting haste samba on the offhand?

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    Is it ever worth it to wear full nin AF3 +2?

    Currently I am using head, legs, feet and ocelot gloves, nin chainmail.

    This is for inside abyssea, assuming I always have haste.

    Full AF3+2 leaves me at 24% haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    How much does it affect not getting haste samba on the offhand?
    Wouldn't the main hand hits keep the haste samba buff on you constantly providing you're not missing with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Wouldn't the main hand hits keep the haste samba buff on you constantly providing you're not missing with it?
    Pretty much this.

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    Ah ok, guess I missed the testing on that cause I thought it some how overrode sambas on the hand it was in.

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    Wouldn't the haste samba prevent the drains from Twilight dagger or does that not apply when it's offhanded? Main hand procs haste samba, off hand procs drains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okan View Post
    Wouldn't the haste samba prevent the drains from Twilight dagger or does that not apply when it's offhanded? Main hand procs haste samba, off hand procs drains?
    Yes. The only time samba is affected is if you miss mainhand and land offhand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BahamutRicker View Post
    Is it ever worth it to wear full nin AF3 +2?

    Currently I am using head, legs, feet and ocelot gloves, nin chainmail.

    This is for inside abyssea, assuming I always have haste.

    Full AF3+2 leaves me at 24% haste.
    You also lose 5% DW. MAYBE worth outside if you're having acc issues, but not worth it in abyssea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    Past the initial 7 proc it seems like when my ODD procs on my SA/TA it has a higher chance to proc TH again, but eyeballing, no evidence or w/e. But a theory I'd be willing to believe nonetheless.
    I wouldn't doubt it because didn't the initial patch notes say that TH has a chance to upgrade on "highly damaging attacks"? Hence why SA/TA upgrade more often than normal hits. An ODD proc on SA/TA should further increase the chance.

    Has it been confirmed that TH can upgrade during WS and just not appear in the log? Wiki says it can and I thought I recently read something about someone testing this but I'm not sure. Should be "somewhat" easy to test over the course of a long fight. If you see TH7 in the log, WS a couple times, and see TH9+ later as if it skipped a level, then that should be enough to confirm as long as there is only 1 THF in the party. I would test but PS2 limitations and I couldn't post chatlogs to prove/debunk anyway.

    Edit: Wrong thread for my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetEnduro View Post
    You also lose 5% DW. MAYBE worth outside if you're having acc issues, but not worth it in abyssea.
    24% might put you at cap with double marches with +3 instrument (possibly +2 if they add new march in 95cap update ) and haste so maybe then it would be worth it. On the other hand it will probably be better to change legs for augmented byakko at that point (and maybe some other augmented pieces like Usukane if they will introduce augments for it in next update )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    24% might put you at cap with double marches with +3 instrument (possibly +2 if they add new march in 95cap update ) and haste so maybe then it would be worth it. On the other hand it will probably be better to change legs for augmented byakko at that point (and maybe some other augmented pieces like Usukane if they will introduce augments for it in next update )
    EDIT: In fact you will be pretty much at cap with 24%haste 45%DW and marches with +2 instrument and af3+2 hands and haste spell. With Gjallahorn or Langeleik you need just 21% in gear (with other buffs stay the same as I just wrote)

    EDIT2: ....Yeah that was a nice edit.... I need some sleep....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetEnduro View Post
    You also lose 5% DW. MAYBE worth outside if you're having acc issues, but not worth it in abyssea.
    Ok, pretty much what I had fighured. Thanks for the help.

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