What's Better?

[Trixen]

PLD chant, Calmeac subligar vs tumblers? mostly using pld outside so i think acc and crit rate could be better than straight out atk? inside tumbler prolly better for atk.

Of course till i get my nlegs abj (damn niddy didn't put out more than 3 / year for us)

[dasva]

PLD chant, Calmeac subligar vs tumblers? mostly using pld outside so i think acc and crit rate could be better than straight out atk? inside tumbler prolly better for atk.

Of course till i get my nlegs abj (damn niddy didn't put out more than 3 / year for us)

Tumblers isn't straight att. Dex is a stat mod for CDC. Also it could potentially add more to crit rate than calmeac.

[Neisan]

I'd probably stick to Tumbler's/N legs when you get them unless you're sure you're attack capped on Pld, unless you really need that accuracy.

[Maguile]

Ravagers Gorget/Crit+2 wivre gorget/elemental gorget for Ukko's Fury?

[Atoreis]

Ravagers Gorget/Crit+2 wivre gorget/elemental gorget for Ukko's Fury?

Rancor Collar

[Maguile]

Rancor Collar

Don't.

[Atoreis]

Don't.

Ele gorget>Ravager>Wivre then ( checked with fast math but should be pretty valid )

[yanzi]

Ele gorget>Ravager>Wivre then ( checked with fast math but should be pretty valid )

When is Rancor Collar better than Ele gorget? (ukko inside/outside, smite inside/outside, hi inside/outside)?

[dasva]

Pretty much anytime you don't have capped crit hit rate and have capped acc and you don't care about the dmg taken that much.

[Atoreis]

Pretty much anytime you don't have capped crit hit rate and have capped acc and you don't care about the dmg taken that much.

Pretty much this. For Hi and smite its not even close because of high fTP but for Ukko rancor will also win pretty much anytime.

[Kamil]

Would Crit+3 and STP+4 Haidate be better than using Af3+2 legs on NIN?

[Nightfyre]

situational

[Kamil]

situational

Situational depending on? It'll be inside abyssea most likely.

[dasva]

Well you can't really just compare the 2 peices you really need to compare the sets they are going into for 1.

[Kamil]

The two sets would be:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/227766

or

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/227768

[Nightfyre]

Haidate setup all the way, but largely because the other set lacks Usukane Sune-ate.

[noodles355]

Corsair Quick Draw:
5/5 AF3+2
Or should I swap out the corresponding +2 pieces for:
AF1 Hat
MaB/QD Delay Mirke Wadecors
TP Bonus Mittens

Armageddon/Death Penalty Cor in my LS says 5/5 AF3+2, but really wanted to check if this MaB/QD delay mirke would be better (other things were just afterthoughts).

[dasva]

Corsair Quick Draw:
5/5 AF3+2
Or should I swap out the corresponding +2 pieces for:
AF1 Hat
MaB/QD Delay Mirke Wadecors
TP Bonus Mittens

Armageddon/Death Penalty Cor in my LS says 5/5 AF3+2, but really wanted to check if this MaB/QD delay mirke would be better (other things were just afterthoughts).

Guess it kinda depends though it sounds like he is more about epeening and not overall dmg. Either that or really concerned about it's acc

af1 hat still wins but given current bullet/gun dmg over time it averages out a bit closer and in the future af3+2 might end up winning. -qd recast (especially if you can get mab on it too) blood hat would probably be best assuming there isn't a cap to -qd recast

Definitely assuming you actually use QD with any regularity. Maybe if you just sit on the recast all the time maybe not.

Depends on if that tp will actually help you. Doubt it really will or that much so I'd stick with af3+2 unless you get really lucky on some bfg augments

[noodles355]

What's Blood hat? TP bonus could offset not having rajas, but then rajas for STP and another piece for set bonus might win. I'll deal with that later.

So it's really either:
AF1 hat, QD/MaB Mirke, 3/5 AF3+2
QD/MaB Mirke, 4/5 AF3+2
5/5 AF3+2

[Deader2818]

Pretty sure you should always use the QD Mirke at least.