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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Thought so. I just hate seeing those 1k His lol.

    What about blu cdc? iirc my crit rate with both of those earrings would be 82 not counting whatever cdc gives which I haven't really heard but assuming 15 like hi...
    Having higher crit rate does not make crit gear better. It doesn't have increasing returns.

    If Brutal wins at 0% crit rate, it's going to win at 81% crit rate, all other stats being equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Having higher crit rate does not make crit gear better. It doesn't have increasing returns.

    If Brutal wins at 0% crit rate, it's going to win at 81% crit rate, all other stats being equal.
    I know that. In fact it's decreasing returns.

    I'm just a fan of consistancy when tanking. And having finally done the numbers myself the margin between the 2 is pretty small so idk might just say fuck slightly higher overall dmg to getting rid of crap dmg unless of course I miss first hit

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    inb4 semantics war again; it's linear I thought, not decreasing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    inb4 semantics war again; it's linear I thought, not decreasing
    And yes fuck semantics. Whenever I say decreasing/increasing it's in terms of percentage dmg and therefore dps. I could care less if something always adds a set 10 dmg I'm not callling it linear lol.

    idk I'd have to do more math at more points. Pretty sure pdif and crit dmg play a part in it but too big of a headache right now

    But I mathed 1.5 pdif non crit and 2.5 with (think someone said it's not straight +1.0 anymore but haven't really looked into it) and 1.6 crit dmg I got like 1.3% increase at 0% crit rate and .7% at 99% crit rate. Of course that's not taking overtping into consideration partly because I don't think it's been fully tested if crit rate changes inbetween anchor points

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    5 vit or 12 attack for tocleaver?

    Probably going to get the answer: vit for LR up, but is the 12 attack going to outweigh the 5 vit on a 60% vit WS?

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    Am i doing it wrong? got a few people sending me tells on Asura saying wtf @ my claymore grip, and uthers/pole grip onry.

    Seen a few other ukon wars here on asura with uthers.

    Atma SanguineS/Apoc/RR for me

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    Those people sending you tells. They are retards.

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    Working towards Blade: Metsu and wanted to ask about WS build.
    I assume that is would be similar to Blade: Hi build, as in stack as much DEX as I can since it is 60% mod.
    Current question would be about neck/belt items. Would Hope Torque/Anguinus Belt OR Breeze Gorget/Belt be best? Or something else?
    Thank you for any input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wop View Post
    Am i doing it wrong? got a few people sending me tells on Asura saying wtf @ my claymore grip, and uthers/pole grip onry.

    Seen a few other ukon wars here on asura with uthers.

    Atma SanguineS/Apoc/RR for me
    hahaha :D there are a lot of retards like that on Bahamut too. My friend even trying his best to update theirs knowledge but only with around 50% success rate XD

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    It's Asura, I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikia View Post
    Working towards Blade: Metsu and wanted to ask about WS build.
    I assume that is would be similar to Blade: Hi build, as in stack as much DEX as I can since it is 60% mod.
    Current question would be about neck/belt items. Would Hope Torque/Anguinus Belt OR Breeze Gorget/Belt be best? Or something else?
    Thank you for any input.
    Breeze gorget/cuchulain's belt for capped accuracy but cuchulain and ele belt are so close that I would just use ele belt regardless of accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Breeze gorget/cuchulain's belt for capped accuracy but cuchulain and ele belt are so close that I would just use ele belt regardless of accuracy.
    Currently working on JoHope pops, So next would be is Hope Torque even worth it atm? Would it be good for TP set over Iga neck?
    Again thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikia View Post
    Currently working on JoHope pops, So next would be is Hope Torque even worth it atm? Would it be good for TP set over Iga neck?
    Again thanks for the input.
    Its ok for the TPing but not really best. Agasaya is pretty much hope+1 and Iga is probably an overall winner inside abyssea. INB4: Dasva arguing that hope is better for reducing tp gain vs agasaya when you have auspice up :D

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    I don't even cast shadows, TP gain is for pussies

    Edit: yeah im hard, wat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Its ok for the TPing but not really best. Agasaya is pretty much hope+1 and Iga is probably an overall winner inside abyssea. INB4: Dasva arguing that hope is better for reducing tp gain vs agasaya when you have auspice up :D
    Only outside abyssesa. Also you need enhanced auspice to cap subtle blow without gearing. Otherwise or using nin spell needs 10. In which case I'll just use torero for some evasion.

    Though wouldn't take that much gear to cap subtle blow without spells on nin. Really capping subtle blow on nin is a given lol.

    Also fuck that shit. Tp in in rancor

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    TP in rancor is obvious answer if +DT is not a problem.

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    I read before that things like Hope Torque can push you up a dmg tier? Will be honest i get the most basic part of that statement but I dont fully understand the math. If anyone would help explain i am all ears, or eyes as it were.

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    I would assume that at 94 this would be the new standard?

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    second best leg slot for victory smite while I work toward 3 sarameya pops. I've been using usukane legs. Anything better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    second best leg slot for victory smite while I work toward 3 sarameya pops. I've been using usukane legs. Anything better?
    Would be much easier to works toward augmented shura+1.

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    Usu, yes. Augmented, maybe. I'm 200+ in and I have a +1STR on mine lol

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