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    Level something else.

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    But keep gearing your SAM and working on Masa. Abyssea is just a place to farm weapons/xp

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    I have 57blm, 40whm, 50war and dnc. Which is going to be the best to help get people involved or be able to carry my weight?

    I would imagine that either mage would be good, but it's hard when you only have limited funds for scrolls and gear.

    Thank you for your help though. I'm in a social shell now, and they are super helpful. But I don't think any really do much with empy weapons and other elite gear. Having a little trouble getting into a shell because I'm new and have so much to still do.

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    I have 57blm, 40whm, 50war and dnc. Which is going to be the best to help get people involved or be able to carry my weight?

    I would imagine that either mage would be good, but it's hard when you only have limited funds for scrolls and gear.

    Thank you for your help though. I'm in a social shell now, and they are super helpful. But I don't think any really do much with empy weapons and other elite gear. Having a little trouble getting into a shell because I'm new and have so much to still do.

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    Whm and war are pretty much staples of any aybssea party so one of them is ya best bet. If do war make sure to lvl all the needed weapons to trigger red. Can prolley farm sets as war/dnc or something then invite lsmates to help kill cabo and offer them the af3 drops.
    That will get ya started atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flic View Post
    Whm and war are pretty much staples of any aybssea party so one of them is ya best bet. If do war make sure to lvl all the needed weapons to trigger red. Can prolley farm sets as war/dnc or something then invite lsmates to help kill cabo and offer them the af3 drops.
    That will get ya started atleast.
    Yeah when I did Armageddon it didn't take long at all. I farmed pops and then asked my friends if they needed +2 items to speed things up when I fought Carabosse. Carabosse+Cirein-Croin is pretty damn easy/quick to farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy Kong View Post
    Here's mine: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/227769

    Mine is a STR/Attack Kila though, really not sure what else to improve on either.
    Are Lithe Boots really the best both inside and out? Outside abyssea wouldn't augmented hecatomb, or even unaugmented hecatomb/+1 or agronas be better?

    Also, is Cuchulain's belt better than anguinus outside? I can't see 6 Dex beating 5Atk 1%DA and 15 Acc if there's a chance of being under-capped acc, not that there's much you would be under-capped on and not using WS like Rudras/Mandillic/Shark Bite/Mercy Stroke anyway I guess... just answered my own question.

    Think I know the answer to this put just double checking:
    Drg, until I get AF3+2 hat, I should be using Zelus+Keen Ring right? The other option being AF3+1/Blitz Ring. Zelus/Keen is 26% Haste, af3+1/blitz is 25% and 7att more. Other gear is love torque, ethereal, brutal, af3+1 body, ace's hands, rajas ring, atheling mantle, bullwhip, calmecac, af3+2 feet.
    Am I right in assuming best drg TP set is this?:
    AF3+2, Love Torque/Rancor, [earring?], Brutal
    AF3+2, Ace's, Blitz, Rajas
    Atheling, Bullwhip, Calmecac, Af3+2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achillas View Post
    I have 57blm, 40whm, 50war and dnc. Which is going to be the best to help get people involved or be able to carry my weight?
    War and blm are really good as far as offering your shell versitility in abyssea with war having a variety of red triggers(used for key item farming, which youll want for your masamune farming(ie sword, club, scythe, polearm, greatsword) and blm will offer amber trigger lights(yellow/green !! triggers[commonly known as grellow], not to be confused with amber lights) used for seals and +2 emp gear items which youll want to have available to farm gear for your jobs or help your shell farm any gear.

    Masamune sam is a solid job. Its great outside of abyssea, and moderate inside abyssea. If your shell isnt one to nitpick about being efficient to the 10th degree, than you can easily get away with being on sam inside abyssea without looking like deadweight, provided ofcourse your war or blm werent needed.

    Cara/Cirein both drop +2 items, if you had to shout you could probably get 4 or so people that still need them.

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    breeze gorget or hope torque for blade jin?
    and if breeze then the belt is usable? so it would replace warwolf too?

    also heca sub or ravagers +2 for raging rush?

    uthers grip or pole grip for for war and drk?

    thanks before hand

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    Moonshade earring with att/regain or Bruiser's earring. For mnk inside aybssea if that makes diff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flic View Post
    Moonshade earring with att/regain or Bruiser's earring. For mnk inside aybssea if that makes diff
    same questions but id like to know the dps difference for outside abyssea. and also aiser ear pendant.
    Gear in all 3 sets
    Full merits in hth 16
    Full af3+2
    Black belft
    atheling mantle
    raja /eponas
    faith Tourqe
    *if possable please list the acc also*

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    Should also list how many h2h merits you have since it could effect base dmg then.

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    I've burned through this thread and I'm going to ask a sam question knowing I probably missed the best answers. Assume Masa I'm looking for ideal TP set, atma choice and the rearrange of merits after all of this with zanshin from what I've been reading. SAM was one of my first jobs I enjoyed and kind of died off when I did vereth monk, so I'm a little retarded on the newer changes. Thanks in advance and sorry if I missed all of these answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoru View Post
    I've burned through this thread and I'm going to ask a sam question knowing I probably missed the best answers. Assume Masa I'm looking for ideal TP set, atma choice and the rearrange of merits after all of this with zanshin from what I've been reading. SAM was one of my first jobs I enjoyed and kind of died off when I did vereth monk, so I'm a little retarded on the newer changes. Thanks in advance and sorry if I missed all of these answers.
    I've gotten the best results out of RR/Apoc/AaO. ~25% TA rate and the additional attack are extremely nice for white damage and WSfrequency, while RR is really staple for anyone meleeing. For merits post Zanshin update, I'd say Iko/Overwhelm 5/5, unless you want Blade Bash available, in which case you could drop one merit into that. Group1 merits are arguable, and most suggest Meditate/Zanshin rate, but I don't like the idea of building entirely around having Hasso up by dropping STP merits, because that's not always realistic. I did Zanshin rate/STP 5/5.

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    le double~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoru View Post
    I've burned through this thread and I'm going to ask a sam question knowing I probably missed the best answers. Assume Masa I'm looking for ideal TP set, atma choice and the rearrange of merits after all of this with zanshin from what I've been reading. SAM was one of my first jobs I enjoyed and kind of died off when I did vereth monk, so I'm a little retarded on the newer changes. Thanks in advance and sorry if I missed all of these answers.
    Pretty sure THIS is right. It's a 6 hit that turns into a 4 hit with a Hassanshin proc.

    You could make a gear switch for 4 more Store TP somewhere (which won't hurt once we get Tyrant's Ring) and put the Merits back into Meditate if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Should also list how many h2h merits you have since it could effect base dmg then.
    Pretty much cookie cutter mnk, full merits, faith torque, af3+2, will it bump me a tier at 95, or at 99 ?. Or just use moonshade instead. Sorry, just dont know how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flic View Post
    Pretty much cookie cutter mnk, full merits, faith torque, af3+2, will it bump me a tier at 95, or at 99 ?. Or just use moonshade instead. Sorry, just dont know how this works.
    yes af3 + faith + earring bumps you up a tier on dmg , hence why i want to see it vs the other 2 warrings becase i dont see how 1dmg 2.5? acc 3atk loses to 7atk, and i wanna know how close it is to the earring.

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    Rancor or Charis Necklace outside with haste and samba only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayu View Post
    also heca sub or ravagers +2 for raging rush?

    uthers grip or pole grip for for war and drk?
    Ravager's +2

    I'll assume your inclusion of a ranged attack onry grip such as Uther's is not serious.

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