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  1. #1221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    There is no reason with current gear options why whm couldn't be maintaining 50% cure potency with AF3+2 body equipped during cures.
    iirc he only returned to the game recently. Obviously 50% + Bliaud +2 is the way to go and I said as much, but until then the choice is relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    iirc he only returned to the game recently. Obviously 50% + Bliaud +2 is the way to go and I said as much, but until then the choice is relevant.
    Currently my mule has the +22 staff, +10 head, +4 hands, and the +4 back. I'm not going to buy a roundel because I'm not that rich, and I haven't tried for the orison earring yet but it's on the to do list. With it, it would leave me at 42% without using a body. I could use the +2 or +3 neck piece but I feel the fast cast WHM one would be better. I also could get 1% more if I used both of my serpentes cuffs and sabots but I feel the healing skill and mnd from the gloves and -cure cast from the cure clogs would out do that. So, do I sit at 42% or use the cure pot body to hit the cap?

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    You could switch to potency mid cast and skill keep the fast cast -cure cast time precast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    You could switch to potency mid cast and skill keep the fast cast -cure cast time precast...
    Yes, but that seems to be too hard.

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    What is better(Bard Legs)? Aoidos' Rhing. (Magic Accuracy+5 Singing skill +8 Song recast delay -4) VS Chl. Cannions +1 ( HP+12 STR+8 DEX+8 Wind instrument skill +8 Enmity-2 )

    I want to store Choral Cannions + 1. Is there a big difference between wind and singing skills?

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    Aoidos' Rhingrave. More accuracy and some recast to boot :d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiin View Post
    Currently my mule has the +22 staff, +10 head, +4 hands, and the +4 back. I'm not going to buy a roundel because I'm not that rich, and I haven't tried for the orison earring yet but it's on the to do list. With it, it would leave me at 42% without using a body. I could use the +2 or +3 neck piece but I feel the fast cast WHM one would be better. I also could get 1% more if I used both of my serpentes cuffs and sabots but I feel the healing skill and mnd from the gloves and -cure cast from the cure clogs would out do that. So, do I sit at 42% or use the cure pot body to hit the cap?
    Going from 42% potency to 50% potency is about 60 HP cured with Cure V. Staying at 42% and adding the Orison +2 body gives you an extra ~90 points of cureskin. If you're taking regular amounts of damage, the Orison body wins. If you're not taking regular amounts of damage then it doesn't really matter either way.

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    I know this question is very complex but what is better to upg to 95, Veret or Ukon? Assuming the only boost is what we see then Ukon is around 9-10% boost and Veret only 4%. I only tanked T3 VW with Apoc DRK and I'm wondering is Ukon or Veret better for lets say Pil? (I'm a little worried on MNK that I would have no defense abilities during Shah Mat when I need to turn.)

    How You tank Pil on MNK anyway it has too much HP to magic AoE go above 75% hp mark for scherzo and earmor. PDT during shah mat and switch it off for Flank? MDT for Malign and spells? I think that even full DT+ wouldnt bring Malign over 75% for me on MNK.

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    I just use PDT and ride fanatics. My WS set was my aby set because I didn't know I'd be tanking but with a larger focus on accuracy I probably would have done better WS wise. Only problem is, you can't hit him during melee either so you need to have accuracy food or buffs. You aren't going to hold hate indefinitely though, not with the amount of damage required to kill him and damage you take. Can be a good co tank however, as could war or drk. I'd almost say it's a necessity -because- of the damage required to kill him.

    Also his spells don't hit hard through MDT/ShellraV. It's really just Flank Opening that will cause you problems.

    I'd do Ukon before anything else. That weapon is just plain stupid.

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    Ok, I just turned in all my sea organs for the 8 elemental obis. I under the benefits it gives to whm rdm sch and blm, but what about smn? Should I even bother? The only thing I can think of off the top of My head atm is -Avatar perpretuation cost. Maybe Avatar's elemental BPs? I just pick theses up. Can anyone give Me thier own firsthand experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I just use PDT and ride fanatics. My WS set was my aby set because I didn't know I'd be tanking but with a larger focus on accuracy I probably would have done better WS wise. Only problem is, you can't hit him during melee either so you need to have accuracy food or buffs. You aren't going to hold hate indefinitely though, not with the amount of damage required to kill him and damage you take. Can be a good co tank however, as could war or drk. I'd almost say it's a necessity -because- of the damage required to kill him.

    Also his spells don't hit hard through MDT/ShellraV. It's really just Flank Opening that will cause you problems.

    I'd do Ukon before anything else. That weapon is just plain stupid.
    Will do probably. Should be done in month+. If none will do it faster which I doubt I will gladly do some tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrp View Post
    Is there a big difference between wind and singing skills?
    Afaik, they do the same.
    RE: Thf feet, Dusk+1 acc-capped, ryuga uncapped. Fuck Ballerines. I have them in storage but try as I might, I can't justify a use for them on thf (If I need to evade, I use AF3+2 feet while maintaining 26% gear haste.)

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    Raider's Earring or Brutal Earring for THF ? not sure if lowering double attack for 1% triple attack is better

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    Brutal is better.

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    Just went 1/1 on Mextli Harness and now wondering: Mextli Harness OR Ninja Chainmail +1 for Mixed TP set for NIN? Kinda hoping Mextli Harness since otherwise it will just sit in mog house ; ;
    Thank you for the assist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matix View Post
    For namas arrow, light gorget/belt versus ire+1/bier+1? Target would be VW t3's/RCB/temps active etc... If neither of those +STR options win, how much +STR would it take to outweigh the bonus from gorget/belt? I guess im asking, is it a complete washout where one is going to always be better other than the other? at what point will it be when one overtakes the other, anyone mathy for this :E? Would be hugely appreciated!~
    What is your total STR and AGI for namas without anything on neck and waist? That will help a lot.
    EDIT: nvm. Even with the assumption worst case scenario (-70 fSTR2, 100 STR and 100 AGI total during WS), ele gorget/belt still weighs about 20~24 STR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikia View Post
    Just went 1/1 on Mextli Harness and now wondering: Mextli Harness OR Ninja Chainmail +1 for Mixed TP set for NIN? Kinda hoping Mextli Harness since otherwise it will just sit in mog house ; ;
    Thank you for the assist.
    I can't really see Mextli winning, the DW from Chainmail should come out on top. It might win if you're uncapped on haste I dunno >.> If you're uncapped on Haste, I would definitely use it when casting at least lol. Maybe if you're really reaching for some accuracy.

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    You saw the SET before the 8% haste right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    You saw the SET before the 8% haste right?
    Shmy bad definitely thought the Dual Wield was the set bonus

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    If the math is right: Delay 210 + 201

    Ninja Chainmail+1 = 154.125 (2.57 sec) VIT+5 DEX+5 HP+15 Shock Spikes
    Mextli Harness = 160.29 (2.67 sec) Acc/Racc+17 Katana/Sword/Marksmanship+7

    I really dont want to beat a dead horse however does anyone think 0.1 would be that much of a loss? I try to keep in mind I usually have yonin up and usually a THF friend with me. The extra Acc could make up for the slight loss since yonin helps to keep acc slightly uncapped? Trying to look at the bigger picture and seems Harness overall seems better? Really do thank you all for the helpful information.

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