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  1. #1681
    Alarial
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    Maybe I missed it, but can someone tell me which gorgets/belts work for Last Stand and for Extentrator?

    I saw maybe aqua for Last Stand, but am wondering if there is another option as well? I dont want to go farm one if I have one already that works! Thanks!

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    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/242209

    This or Atheling mantle?

    Also, the only thing I should be switching for Shoha is neck/belt for ele/b+1, right(neither of which I have)?

    I have been using that build for both WS. :3

  3. #1683
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus View Post
    Trying to get Bestia Breeches with Accu+3/Haste+4 augment for DRG. Is there anything out there that's still better?
    Kinda depends on the rest of your set (maintain capped haste and Xhit builds and such)... I mean you can easily cap haste without legs. Also could ask yourself can you tp in some -acc or do you need more. Some good options with DA/TA on them or lots of att or acc. Hell even af3+2 is pretty good to tp in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    Maybe I missed it, but can someone tell me which gorgets/belts work for Last Stand and for Extentrator?

    I saw maybe aqua for Last Stand, but am wondering if there is another option as well? I dont want to go farm one if I have one already that works! Thanks!
    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Merit_Weapon_Skill. Also elements and stats are now listed I think. Also don't think dagger was one of the ones the gorget/belt applied to all hits so probably better off with att/agi

  5. #1685
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Merit_Weapon_Skill. Also elements and stats are now listed I think. Also don't think dagger was one of the ones the gorget/belt applied to all hits so probably better off with att/agi
    Thank you - I guess I dont understand. So, if it's listed as Fusion/Reverberation then that tells which 4 gorgets you can use? So flame, aqua.... what are the other two? Thanks much for the help.

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    Fusion is fire and light and reverberation is water... just like the skillchains...

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    Keitonotachi+3 Tp bonus or Kikugosaku?

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    Safe to say Avant Cuisses +1 beat Hachiryu for Shoha now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalasin View Post
    Safe to say Avant Cuisses +1 beat Hachiryu for Shoha now?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukari View Post
    Justiciar's Torque or Love Torque on Dancing Edge and Rudra's Storm.
    Justiciar's for DE, I'd say. Maybe Love for Rudra's Storm, but quite possibly Justiciar's there too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    Thank you - I guess I dont understand. So, if it's listed as Fusion/Reverberation then that tells which 4 gorgets you can use? So flame, aqua.... what are the other two? Thanks much for the help.
    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Elemental_Gorgets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus View Post
    Trying to get Bestia Breeches with Accu+3/Haste+4 augment for DRG. Is there anything out there that's still better?
    Calmecac Trousers.

    Edit: Also I've tossed about 4 Scheamol Bands now, but before I toss the 5th am I right in thinking there's no real use for it? Or could it beat Aias Bonnet on unstacked Thf WS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Calmecac Trousers.

    Edit: Also I've tossed about 4 Scheamol Bands now, but before I toss the 5th am I right in thinking there's no real use for it? Or could it beat Aias Bonnet on unstacked Thf WS?
    Even an NQ heca cap can get 3DA and 7 attack, crushes the band.

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    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c243/r5n/exen.jpg

    Current Exenterator set, it's what I threw together out f stuff I had.
    Currently using Suppanomimi because I dunno what to buy, and I never had a real use for Aesir and never got it.
    Is a 4 AGL earring really worth it?
    Is it worth the effort or running my mule all the way through TOA to get Aesir, or is a 3 AGL earring better?
    Which is better between a 5 attack earring and 3 AGL?
    I saw people say Justiciars is better then Houyi's, really?
    Is there anything I am missing and should also go get?

    EDIT: I have a 4 STR earring also, hows that stack up vs 3 agl, 4 agl, 5 att or 7 att?

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    Can use Genin if you find one if you're going to stay /nin.

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    Thf gets DW3 95-99 doesn't it? Doubt people will use /nin unless lowman tanking something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Even an NQ heca cap can get 3DA and 7 attack, crushes the band.
    More wondering on in the meantime, Aias or Scheamol.

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    I'm planning to use Aesir Ear for Exenterator set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxer View Post
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/242209

    This or Atheling mantle?

    Also, the only thing I should be switching for Shoha is neck/belt for ele/b+1, right(neither of which I have)?

    I have been using that build for both WS. :3

    Atheling, Ace's body and ele gorget/belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamugi View Post
    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c243/r5n/exen.jpg

    Current Exenterator set, it's what I threw together out f stuff I had.
    Currently using Suppanomimi because I dunno what to buy, and I never had a real use for Aesir and never got it.
    Is a 4 AGL earring really worth it?
    Is it worth the effort or running my mule all the way through TOA to get Aesir, or is a 3 AGL earring better?
    Which is better between a 5 attack earring and 3 AGL?
    I saw people say Justiciars is better then Houyi's, really?
    Is there anything I am missing and should also go get?

    EDIT: I have a 4 STR earring also, hows that stack up vs 3 agl, 4 agl, 5 att or 7 att?
    About 1 in 7 agi won't do anything for you due to the alpha mod. As long as you're not hitting that when adding any given amount of agi:

    4 str is about equal to 2 agi or 5 att
    3 agi (eg: Drone) should beat 7 att

    Justiciar's lead depends on a few things:
    It's assumed that you're not att capped
    If not acc capped, Houyi wins
    If fStr is capped, they're essentially tied even if an agi is lost to alpha; if all 6 agi are counted after alpha, Houyi wins.
    With uncapped fStr, if all 6 agi of Houyi are counted after alpha rounding, they are essentially tied. If one of the agi is lost due to alpha, Justiciar has a small lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    About 1 in 7 agi won't do anything for you due to the alpha mod. As long as you're not hitting that when adding any given amount of agi:

    4 str is about equal to 2 agi or 5 att
    3 agi (eg: Drone) should beat 7 att

    Justiciar's lead depends on a few things:
    It's assumed that you're not att capped
    If not acc capped, Houyi wins
    If fStr is capped, they're essentially tied even if an agi is lost to alpha; if all 6 agi are counted after alpha, Houyi wins.
    With uncapped fStr, if all 6 agi of Houyi are counted after alpha rounding, they are essentially tied. If one of the agi is lost due to alpha, Justiciar has a small lead.
    That's pretty close to what I was thinking, thanks for reply so I don't have to bother with math.
    What I was thinking: 4 agl > 7 att > 3 agl > 4 str = 5 att
    You're saying: 4 agl > 3agl > or = 7 att > 4 str = 5 att

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