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    Are elemental gorget and belt best in slot for Upheaval?

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    Justiciar's torque or gorget for Tachi: shoha?

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    gorget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    About 1 in 7 agi won't do anything for you due to the alpha mod.
    So, this in mind, how would 2x Stormsoul Rings compare to 1 Stormsoul + Epona's? Likewise, what about Altdorf + Wilhelm Earrings compared to Genin + Brutal (if /NIN, otherwise Drone)?

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    Spharai with a perfect shinji spiral set vs 10% crit rate smite 95 verethragna? Considering spharai, but unsure if impetus/champions drink would make verethragna better for most anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shen View Post
    So, this in mind, how would 2x Stormsoul Rings compare to 1 Stormsoul + Epona's? Likewise, what about Altdorf + Wilhelm Earrings compared to Genin + Brutal (if /NIN, otherwise Drone)?
    Stormsoul beats Epona by a slim margin in some configs, and Epona beats Stormsoul by a slimmer margin in other configs. Essentially equal overall, though leaning slightly towards Stormsoul.

    If rounding is favorable, Brutal+Genin is essentially equal to Altdorf+Wilhelm. If it's unfavorable on the Genin side, A+W wins. A+W should always win over Brutal+Drone.

    Note: In all cases, margins are very slim, less than 0.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Spharai with a perfect shinji spiral set vs 10% crit rate smite 95 verethragna? Considering spharai, but unsure if impetus/champions drink would make verethragna better for most anything.
    Using the new crit rate scaling values (10/20/35)

    Spharai 95 vs Vere 95, with best gear set I can figure (not including non-existant gear such as Denali +5), vs Bukhis target (no Berserk; cRatio around 1.5).

    Without Impetus:
    Shijin: 1935
    Smite: 1832

    With Impetus:
    Shijin: 2021
    Smite: 2251

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    Are elemental gorget and belt best in slot for Upheaval?
    If possible I would also like to know the answer to this question. How do the elemental gorget and belt compare to apathy gorget and warwolf belt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Using the new crit rate scaling values (10/20/35)

    Spharai 95 vs Vere 95, with best gear set I can figure (not including non-existant gear such as Denali +5), vs Bukhis target (no Berserk; cRatio around 1.5).

    Without Impetus:
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    Smite: 1832

    With Impetus:
    Shijin: 2021
    Smite: 2251
    Would this push spharai ahead, excluding counter bonus? Or does the combination of aftermath and slightly higher average ws make verethragna better still?

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    Ace's hose. DRG gets a heavy ACC boost, so you can probably sport that piece in most cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    4 str is about equal to 2 agi or 5 att
    When you say "4 STR is about equal to 2 AGI" are you factoring in the ATT from that 4 STR? Because 4 STR would only add ~1 base DMG while 2 AGI would add ~1.7 base DMG. Or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
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    When you say "4 STR is about equal to 2 AGI" are you factoring in the ATT from that 4 STR? Because 4 STR would only add ~1 base DMG while 2 AGI would add ~1.7 base DMG. Or am I missing something?
    Yes. 2 agi is (generally) 2 base damage. 4 str is 1 base damage plus 2 att. From there, 3 of the 5 att on the earring approximates 1 base damage. And I'd already mentioned elsewhere about 1 agi being roughly 2.75 att. This is all rather rough estimates given that we're dealing with small numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Ace's hose. DRG gets a heavy ACC boost, so you can probably sport that piece in most cases.
    I'm fairly sure most of the time Calmecac is better. Most setups I looked at for both 6hit and 5hit with both normal 492, and the OAT lance only needed 4% haste in the leg slot to hit 26%, and that 25% with the DA/TA of Calmecac was better. Just dat swap the ugliness.

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    Ninja MH option: Kakesu vs Majimun (d:55, del:242, DA+11%)
    Both should be better than my lolhochomasamune, but since I'm still on the Khalamari stage for Majimun, if it turns out being inferior to Kakesu (even without the attack bonus, which is just icing on the cake for me) I just won't bother with silver mirrors and riftsands.

    Exenterator neck option: Houyi's Gorget vs Elemental gorget
    Of course I'm looking for secondary options other than the obvious Justicar's. Outcome among those two? Anything better that's not Justicar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Exenterator neck option: Houyi's Gorget vs Elemental gorget
    Of course I'm looking for secondary options other than the obvious Justicar's. Outcome among those two? Anything better that's not Justicar?
    Houyi, and not that I've found.

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    To build on Sech's Exenterator. For waist, is it bsaically: Crudelis or Anguinus depending on if you need Accuracy?

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    How does Ogier's Breeches stack up to say warr legs +2 for warr, or avant +1 for sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Ninja MH option: Kakesu vs Majimun (d:55, del:242, DA+11%)
    Both should be better than my lolhochomasamune, but since I'm still on the Khalamari stage for Majimun, if it turns out being inferior to Kakesu (even without the attack bonus, which is just icing on the cake for me) I just won't bother with silver mirrors and riftsands.
    Majimun beats Kakesu even if you assume maximum attack bonus fulltime. STR Arisui beats both.

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    Avant Gauntlets +1 or Heafoc Mitts for Resolution? Assuming ACC isn't an issue, it's basically 6 STR VS 2 DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    To build on Sech's Exenterator. For waist, is it bsaically: Crudelis or Anguinus depending on if you need Accuracy?
    Yeah, I don't believe anything beats Crudelis in a capped accuracy situation.

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