Voidwatch NM Weaknesses

**Sukasaroth** · 2012-01-17 20:30

LS mates are swearing up and down that Relic and Mythic WSs can proc and Im not finding info on it anywhere nor seeing it for myself after hundreds of fights.

**Foldypaws** · 2012-01-17 21:36

Originally Posted by Sukasaroth

LS mates are swearing up and down that Relic and Mythic WSs can proc and Im not finding info on it anywhere nor seeing it for myself after hundreds of fights.

Your LS mates are wrong.

**Yoky** · 2012-01-18 02:04

Saw it again today fighting Rex... Automaton Special Ability...

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-01-18 02:36

Originally Posted by Septimus

Google translate shows "Sheep" as the fourth option.

It seems that sheep-family abilities are the missing proc set.

I reported this on the official forums. It seems likely to me that all the options past the first three are going to be displaced one/incorrect until they add Sheep in. Apart from how totally unreasonable it is to expect a BST to summon/unsummon pets and build TP with them before they die, this could be another reason why I've never seen a BST proc in Voidwatch.

**Septimus** · 2012-01-18 03:58

Originally Posted by Yoky

Saw it again today fighting Rex... Automaton Special Ability...

Maybe that means things like Flashbulb or Shield Bash?

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

I reported this on the official forums. It seems likely to me that all the options past the first three are going to be displaced one/incorrect until they add Sheep in. Apart from how totally unreasonable it is to expect a BST to summon/unsummon pets and build TP with them before they die, this could be another reason why I've never seen a BST proc in Voidwatch.

Yes, quite possibly. I checked several different zones from the three chapters, they are all missing sheep as a proc. Chances are this will be fixed before it is figured out.

**Slycer** · 2012-01-18 12:25

Originally Posted by Yoky

Saw it again today fighting Rex... Automaton Special Ability...

Let's try to figure this one out, I've never seen it before. I'm going to add a category for it on the BG Wiki Voidwatch Weaknesses page, add in the abilities as they're confirmed. How many other moves would be considered "automaton special abilities"? Never seen the message so the list of possibilities can't be very long.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Voidwatch_Weaknesses

**Slycer** · 2012-01-18 12:29

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Apart from how totally unreasonable it is to expect a BST to summon/unsummon pets and build TP with them before they die...

Companion's Roll go? lolz

**Isiolia** · 2012-01-18 16:26

Originally Posted by Slycer

Companion's Roll go? lolz

Break out the Zoolater Hats!

Except for the 30 minutes in between uses...

**Slycer** · 2012-01-25 15:30

Anything new to confirm? I've heard murmurs of people proc-ing with T5 and people procing with other blue magic spells not on the list, but these have been few and far between and I haven't seen any screenshot confirmation. Also, anyone have a confirmation on Thundaja as a proc?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Voidwatch_Weaknesses
http://bit.ly/voidwatch

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-25 16:07

I've yet to personally proc with anything aside from the spells listed for BLU, (except for Lowing, I'm almost convinced that it is not a BLU proc), and I've done a lot of Voidwatch.

**Slycer** · 2012-01-25 16:53

I need to find when and where Lowing was confirmed. I agree that it seems weird; I find it very odd that everything would be four spells except fire for blue magic. Likewise, I'm guessing we're still missing one for Dark (e.g. we very recently got confirmation on Light of Penance as a fourth Light proc). I've done tons of Voidwatch myself, but I don't have BLU leveled so I can't always tell what's proc-ing on BLU, though I do try to watch for it. I don't think I've seen Lowing proc, and I know I've seen the others proc.

Edit: Found it - proc was initially unconfirmed and pulled from JP wiki, and it was later said to be a proc by Radec in post #130 of this thread. No screenshot verification. I'm going to throw an asterisk back on it and hopefully someone can verify, or other people can chime in about their experiences not seeing it.

Related, we still need confirmations on Drain II, Thundaja, and Jubaku: Ichi as procs.

**Kaisha** · 2012-01-25 17:30

On my personal list I have Jubaku: Ichi as confirmed. Never have seen Drain/Aspir II be a proc.

**Kalasin** · 2012-01-25 17:40

I can't confirm Jubaku with a screenshot as it close to never lands, but we've had a Ninjutsu ice message a few times where Hyoton:Ichi, Ni and San wouldn't proc.

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-25 18:48

Originally Posted by Slycer

I need to find when and where Lowing was confirmed. I agree that it seems weird; I find it very odd that everything would be four spells except fire for blue magic. Likewise, I'm guessing we're still missing one for Dark (e.g. we very recently got confirmation on Light of Penance as a fourth Light proc). I've done tons of Voidwatch myself, but I don't have BLU leveled so I can't always tell what's proc-ing on BLU, though I do try to watch for it. I don't think I've seen Lowing proc, and I know I've seen the others proc.

Edit: Found it - proc was initially unconfirmed and pulled from JP wiki, and it was later said to be a proc by Radec in post #130 of this thread. No screenshot verification. I'm going to throw an asterisk back on it and hopefully someone can verify, or other people can chime in about their experiences not seeing it.

Related, we still need confirmations on Drain II, Thundaja, and Jubaku: Ichi as procs.

Considering Nms are natively immune to plague, you're gonna be waiting a long time.

Aside from that, as far as darkness spells go, it's always been Sandspray, Death Ray, or Eyes on Me for me.

**Nightfyre** · 2012-01-25 18:58

I'm not 100% sure on this since there's a very strong chance I was paralyzed at the time, but I remember failing to proc a fire element BLU proc last night with the other four spells. Didn't stop to try other spells since there was also an HQ wind element proc up and it was almost dead.

**Seph** · 2012-01-25 20:41

Originally Posted by Kaisha

On my personal list I have Jubaku: Ichi as confirmed. Never have seen Drain/Aspir II be a proc.

I did process jubaku ichi more than once too, easy to figure since i did hundred of VW and i was always the NIN
and it's a bitch to land sometimes versus some NMs

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-02-02 02:26

Friend reports that he got a "Water Blue Magic" weakness last night that couldn't be procced with the four spells listed on bgwiki. All their additional effects landed and wore off, when relevant.

**Yugl** · 2012-02-02 02:30

I've had that issue with temporal shift. I landed the stun but did not proc. I ran through the other spells and those did not proc. I retried temporal shift and proced. I believe it is a glitch.

**Slycer** · 2012-03-19 08:15

Unless someone can confirm otherwise, preferably with screenshot proof, I'm going to remove Drain II and Aspir II from the list of possible procs. I've never seen them proc and I know enough other people who have also never seen them proc to lead me to believe that they are, in fact, not procs.

And on a related note, has anyone seen Thundaja proc anything?

**Prothescar** · 2012-03-22 20:14

I've done three metric fucktons of VWNMs at this point, and I've still yet to see Lowing as a fire BLU proc on any of them. That, along with lack of actual screenshot evidence and the fact that NMs are natively immune to Plague, is really telling me that it is not a proc at all.

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