Voidwatch NM Weaknesses

[Slycer]

Assuming Lowing is not a proc, which I'm inclined to believe is true if for no other reason than fire is the only blue magic with five listed procs, anyone think we're maybe still missing one for Dark? We have three, and all the other elements have four (if Lowing is not a proc).

Listed procs are Death Ray, Eyes on Me, and Sandspray.

Other possible procs could be:
Blood Drain
Digest
MP Drainkiss
Geist Wall
Blood Saber
Jettatura
Enervation
Osmosis
Everyone's Grudge

[dannyl]

Have you guys ever ran across a situation where it was Highly and Extremely for the same elemental blue magic? This happened to me the other night and from Light element of all things. Red triggered first, then White after many no effect or resist attempts. (I could be wrong) but I think it was from the same Light spell as well. Just interesting how it played out.

[NotGreyheim]

Death Ray is already a confirmed proc. Other than that, I noticed the same thing when I was looking over the list yesterday (about all the other elements having 4 procs +Lowing)

edit: @Slycer

[pancakesandsex]

Have you guys ever ran across a situation where it was Highly and Extremely for the same elemental blue magic? This happened to me the other night and from Light element of all things. Red triggered first, then White after many no effect or resist attempts. (I could be wrong) but I think it was from the same Light spell as well. Just interesting how it played out.

I've seen the same spell be the proc across 2 slots before. It's only happened once though.

[Prothescar]

It's bizarre but I'm willing to say that dark only has three proc spells. I've never encountered a situation yet where it was not Death Ray, Eyes on me, or Sandspray.

[Mairja]

It's bizarre but I'm willing to say that dark only has three proc spells. I've never encountered a situation yet where it was not Death Ray, Eyes on me, or Sandspray.

Gonna have to agree with this, I've done a massive amount of voidwatch and I've never heard anyone say they landed all 3 spells and no proc, nor has it happened to me when I've been blu myself.

[NynJa]

Complaints about how blu doesnt have enough triggers? mind blown

[Prothescar]

Who's complaining

[Mairja]

Hardly complaining, just odd how for every other element blu has 4 proc spells (not counting Lowing as a proc, never ever seen it proc anything, never seen a blu cast the other 4 fire spells and not proc with one of them), except darkness.

[Aramaic]

I'd rather complain about blu's who think CDC is the same as them even attempting a proc that will actually help lol.

[NynJa]

SE may read this and percieve it as complaint about only having 3 dark triggers

[Prothescar]

I'd rather complain about blu's who think CDC is the same as them even attempting a proc that will actually help lol.

Suck less

SE may read this and percieve it as complaint about only having 3 dark triggers

They'll read anything and try to twist it into complaining for balance.

[Septimus]

Suck less



They'll read anything and try to twist it into complaining for balance.

What we say to S-E: "I am enjoying new Dynamis."

What S-E hears: "We cry out at you from the darkest depths of the pit of despair to save us with your judicious approach to balance, please nerf everything that is even slightly fun!"

[Slycer]

Nobody's complaining, just wondering if there is a darkness blue magic spell missing from the list of weaknesses. Kind of the reason this thread exists, etc.

Also, I removed Drain II and Aspir II from the list because I'm almost positive neither of them proc, and I removed Lowing based on what people said above (talking about the bit.ly/voidwatch spreadsheet, I haven't edited the wiki list yet). I'm still confused about the Blizzaja/Thundaja thing because I've never seen either of them proc. Someone posted a screenshot of Blizzaja procing an extreme vulnerability, so idk. But I've still never seen either of those proc and I've been going BLM to VW pretty consistently for the past couple months and have probably proc'ed with nearly all of the other BLM spells on the list, including the other four -jas.

[Yugl]

Possible that certain types of procs (Yellow/Red/White) get a mixed list of potential procs? At the least, perhaps white gets an enhanced list of potential procs?

[Churchill]

I've seen Blizja proc on Kaggen before Thundaja was even out yet

[Byrthnoth]

I always ask to come SMN to voidwatch (because it's so afk-ably easy if I decide to play it that way), and these are the procs I've observed:
Carby: Poison Nails, Meteorite, Holy Mist
Ramuh: Thunderstorm (x3), Thunder IV
Leviathan: Water IV, Grand Fall, Barracuda Dive
Garuda: Claw (x2), Wind Blade
Ifrit: Punch
Fenrir: Lunar Bay (x2), Moonlit Charge
Diabolos: Night Terror, Nether Blast (x2)
Titan: Rock Buster, Mountain Buster
Shiva: Blizzard IV, Blizzard II, Heavenly Strike

Has anyone seen a BP: Ward actually proc? I know I've landed Tidal Roar/Diamond Storm on a few VWNMs but they're never the proc.

[Vlorsutes]

I've had Diabolos's Ultimate Terror proc before when it was a case of Darkness elemental Bloodpacts, so as far as Wards go, I know that it is indeed possible.

[Tachi]

Slowga, Somnolence and Lunar Cry can proc also, fortunately they aren't very hard to land. I've still never seen Tidal Roar, Diamond Storm or Nightmare proccing (how this one could be a trigger anyway).

[Draylo]

I've personally landed Somnolence.