Voidwatch NM Weaknesses

**Tazzer** · 2011-08-24 06:07

Originally Posted by Slycer

As a follow-up to this, I saw on the JP Wiki that Aero II and Thunder II were "confirmed" avatar blood pact procs from Garuda and Ramuh. Can anyone else confirm that avatar spells proc as blood pacts?

Proc tonight with Ifrit Fire IV on Hahava. Pretty sure Ramuh/Shiva IV spells have proc before. Have yet to see any Tier II avatar spells proc.

**Slycer** · 2011-08-24 13:15

Originally Posted by Tazzer

Proc tonight with Ifrit Fire IV on Hahava. Pretty sure Ramuh/Shiva IV spells have proc before. Have yet to see any Tier II avatar spells proc.

Just to confirm, these proc'ed as blood pacts and not magic, right?

**Untamedheart** · 2011-09-09 02:33

Couple of Blu Spell updates:

I can confirm Blastbomb as a fire proc. Also Bad Breath procd Celaeno today for earth weakness.

**Tazzer** · 2011-09-09 04:04

Originally Posted by Slycer

Just to confirm, these proc'ed as blood pacts and not magic, right?

Blood Pacts, yes.

**Untamedheart** · 2011-09-14 03:13

Confirming Frost Breath as an ice element proc.

**Kaisha** · 2011-09-14 07:58

Has anyone actually proc'd Lowing for BLU?

I've had it in my list as an uncomfirmed spell for a long time, and I've been questioning it ever since I confirmed 4 other BLU spells for that same category, as no other element category for BLU in my list (so far) has surpassed 4 spells, and I'm about to rule it out.

**Fwahm** · 2011-09-14 08:34

I can personally confirm Bio III and Absorb-INT being staggers.

**Slycer** · 2011-09-14 09:58

Originally Posted by Kaisha

Has anyone actually proc'd Lowing for BLU?

Was wondering this as well. Lowing was one of the spells I pulled from JP Wiki, have never seen it proc. I did find out about other spells on JP wiki first, though, and later confirmed them as procs (Blastbomb, Reaving Wind). Gonna leave it for now, but not much longer...

What about, say, Blank Gaze? I've never seen that proc and that was also on the JP Wiki list. I'd say the list is probably complete outside the uncertainty around blue magic spells.

**vagus** · 2011-09-14 11:36

2 jobs our LS usually don't bring are pup and blu. Seem like a waste of a spot to me. Lol.

**Radec** · 2011-09-14 13:55

Originally Posted by Kaisha

Has anyone actually proc'd Lowing for BLU?

I've had it in my list as an uncomfirmed spell for a long time, and I've been questioning it ever since I confirmed 4 other BLU spells for that same category, as no other element category for BLU in my list (so far) has surpassed 4 spells, and I'm about to rule it out.

We've proc'd both Lowing and Blank Gaze.

Re: BLU as a waste of a spot, they provide more unique spells per element than anyone but BLM, and have high melee acc to land steps (blu is our usual /dnc) while not necessarily needing a /sam or /nin to get WS off or live.
PUP is more useful than say, MNK, since you're trading Asuran for Ventriloquy and a snowball's chance in hell at the pup-ws trigs, until new discernment periapet is available.

**Alkimi** · 2011-09-14 17:49

Had Impact trigger a stagger the other day. Although I was reluctant to post as there's no rows left in your spreadsheet to fit it in.

**Untamedheart** · 2011-09-16 15:54

Confirming Leafstorm as a wind element proc.

**Slycer** · 2011-09-20 09:45

Originally Posted by Alkimi

Had Impact trigger a stagger the other day. Although I was reluctant to post as there's no rows left in your spreadsheet to fit it in.

Can anyone else confirm Impact as a weakness trigger?

**Untamedheart** · 2011-09-23 15:04

Confirming Dia III as a light element proc.

**Juxtaposition** · 2011-09-27 18:01

Confirming Fell Cleave as a proc

http://bucket.bluegartr.com/b6d6b95c...5f16746b8e.png

**Slycer** · 2011-09-28 08:27

The weapon skill list is probably accurate/complete so I might just remove all those asterisks soon.

Has anyone seen anything new proc? Some of them like Thunder V I'm sure aren't procs since the other tier 5 spells are procs, but I'm thinking specifically about Blizzaja... Stoneja through Firaja were all procs, so I kind of figured Blizzaja and eventually Thundaja would be as well. Has anyone seen Blizzaja proc (or any of the other new spells)? And can anyone confirm Impact as a proc?

**Fwahm** · 2011-09-28 10:00

I hadn't noticed it wasn't on there, but I've personally procced sword WS with Death Blossom.

**Juxtaposition** · 2011-09-28 10:46

Looked through the thread and didn't see much about BST's "Any offensive, monster-targeting jug pet ability." Is this literally hundreds of triggers? I can't remember getting pet weakness all that often on Monday, but we brought a BST along anyway. Really can't be sure of how many they triggered.

**Slycer** · 2011-09-28 10:49

More like 50 or 60, but yeah, it's a lot. However, the new periapt (sapience) shows the monster family for BST messages (e.g. leech, diremite, etc.), which limits the number to just a handful.

**Rosalie** · 2011-09-28 20:02

Confirming Raiden Thrust as proc, but no screenshot ><

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