Voidwatch NM Weaknesses

**Draylo** · 2011-11-16 22:10

Originally Posted by Shenrien

http://i39.tinypic.com/2rxtmpk.png

What?

Yeah I got that once too, was dumb lol.

**Slycer** · 2011-11-17 10:30

Good find with Light of Penance, added it to the sheet, and confirmed Savage Blade. I'm positive that all the weapon skills on the WS list are procs, I just left the asterisks on the ones that I haven't personally seen proc or gotten confirmation of elsewhere, or at least don't remember personally seeing proc. As I said above, I think the "_ special attacks" message is a broken pet message for BST, but it would be difficult to confirm. I know that this message was around a while ago, disappeared with a fix, and reappeared when they added the periapt that gives pet messages.

http://bit.ly/voidwatch

**ronin sparthos** · 2011-11-17 10:51

Full Swing confirmation.

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-11-17 13:31

I have some time and am about to enter a no-internet zone, so I'm combing my voidwatch logs for procs. If one of them looks interesting/novel/improbable, let me know and I'll look at the log more carefully.

Spoiler: show

**Slycer** · 2011-11-17 13:44

Water V/Blizzard V, I've never personally seen a tier 5 (or a tier 1) nuke proc, after lots and lots of Voidwatch.

**calili** · 2011-11-17 16:43

Can anyone else confirm that they've had Break as an earth magic proc? A BLM friend (I trust with my life!) has said he had it proc on at least one occasion, but it's not on the list and sadly no screenshots were taken. Was just wondering if someone else had the same happen. ^.^; Thanks!~

**Vathris** · 2011-11-17 16:55

I just got light of penance on Akvan, but i guess no need for screenshot, also i have goten cimicine discharge as a weakness, i had to cast it 4 times, cause on the first 3 i got no effect message, ill look for the screenshot though.

Also, has anyone had any issues with sch abilities?

**Radec** · 2011-11-17 17:08

Originally Posted by calili

Can anyone else confirm that they've had Break as an earth magic proc? A BLM friend (I trust with my life!) has said he had it proc on at least one occasion, but it's not on the list and sadly no screenshots were taken. Was just wondering if someone else had the same happen. ^.^; Thanks!~

I can't see this being true, largely because you'd have to land break* for it to proc - similar to why sleep, bind aren't listed, they don't land at all, ever, and shouldn't be (and aren't) in the proc pool at all.

Originally Posted by Vathris

Also, has anyone had any issues with sch abilities?

It's modus, you just need to land it. Recast reduced(3m), acc up(pretty sure) on test server to fix this in potential upcoming update.

*Edit: If you can SS break sticking to any VNM, not even procing, I'd consider it viable.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-11-17 17:36

I've heard multiple Scholars complain that MV will sometimes fail to proc even if it does land.

**Kaisha** · 2011-11-17 17:45

And I've seen two instances of that happening, one from myself, and another an LS bud.

They need to just allow Libra to proc and fuck MV since it's the only JA that whiffs more than 80% of the time in VW.

**ccf** · 2011-11-18 03:28

Originally Posted by Kaisha

And I've seen two instances of that happening, one from myself, and another an LS bud.

They need to just allow Libra to proc and fuck MV since it's the only JA that whiffs more than 80% of the time in VW.

Coudn't agree more, I am no sch but what influences the success rate of that JA, it's really annoying, when things like say tomahawk will always land but that thing never really works for us when we do it.

**catfat** · 2011-11-18 03:30

Gonna have to take my word for it but I can indeed confirm MV can land and still not stagger. This has happened a few times

**Atoreis** · 2011-11-18 05:38

I guess I will contribute:

Charged whisker (Hahava or Voidwrought)
Leafstorm ( Hahava or voidwrought)
Eye on me (dont remember)
Blank Gaze (Uptala)
Radiant breath (a lot of times)
Heat breath (a lot of times)
Light of penance

Thats from the top of my head. I could list at least 20more that I am sure in like 95% but instead i will write that almost any non sleep/silence/bind magic nuke/debuff from BLU can be stagger. I personally have pretty good macc set for BLU staggering and I was able to land for example everything from wind element of BLU magic on Kaggen ( including TP resets, def down and I think blind from auroral drape(that one im not sure)) so I'm pretty sure all those landable spells are possible proc. I will try to write down my BLU staggers now and I will post here to confirm.

**calili** · 2011-11-18 09:36

Thanks for the quick responses.~ We'll just have to pay more attention from now on, on the person and spell that procs!

This spreadsheet has been a huge help, thanks again to the contributors!

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-11-21 15:32

Path 2:

Flare
Flare II
Fire II
Fire III
Katon: Ichi
Katon: San
Firaga
Firaga II
Firaga III
Firaja
Burn
Blastbomb
Heat Breath
Addle
Pyrohelix

Wind Threnody
Blizzard III
Blizzard IV
Blizzard II
Blizzaga
Blizzaga II
Freeze II
Frost
Hyoton: Ichi
Hyoton: Ni
Hyoton: San
Cryohelix

Suiton: Ichi
Waterja
Water III
Water IV
Poison II
Waterga
Waterga III
Flood II
Maelstrom
Suiton: Ni
Drown
Lightning Threnody
Hydrohelix

Bio II
Bio III
Drain
Aspir
Absorb-STR
Absorb-AGI
Absorb-VIT
Absorb-Acc
Noctohelix
Aspir II
Dispel
Blind
Eyes on Me
Death Ray
Light Threnody

Diaga
Magic Finale
Dia II
Banishga
Banishga II
Banish II
Banish III
Dark Threnody
Holy
Flash
Actinic Burst
Thermal Pulse
Luminohelix

Raiton: Ichi
Raiton: Ni
Thundaga III
Thundaga II
Stun
Shock
Thundaga
Thunder II
Thunder III
Thunder IV
Burst II
Water Threnody
Ionohelix

Aero II
Aero III
Aero IV
Aero V
Aeroga
Aeroga II
Aeroga III
Tornado II
Huton: Ichi
Huton: Ni
Earth Threnody

Quake
Stonega
Rasp
Stone III
Stone IV
Slow
Slow II
Stonega II
Stonega III
Stoneja
Geohelix
Quake II
Carnage Elegy
Lightning Threnody

Rampage
Bora Axe
Spinning Axe
Decimation
Gale Axe
Calamity
Raging Axe
Smash Axe
Avalanche Axe

Blade: Chi
Blade: Teki
Blade: Rin
Blade: Jin
Blade: Retsu
Blade: Ten
Blade: Ku
Blade: Yu

Blast Shot
Slug Shot
Numbing Shot
Sniper Shot
Split Shot

Flaming Arrow
Sidewinder
Blast Arrow
Piercing Arrow
Dulling Arrow
Arching Arrow
Empyreal Arrow
Reflugent Arrow

Aeolian Edge
Shadowstitch
Energy Steal
Dancing Edge
Shark Bite
Viper Bite
Wasp Sting
Gust Slash
Cyclone
Evisceration

Ground Strike
Spinning Slash
Shockwave
Sickle Moon
Crescent Moon
Freezebite
Herculean Slash

Dragon Kick
Raging Fists
Spinning Attack
Combo
Shoulder Tackle
One Inch Punch
Tornado Kick
Backhand Blow
Asuran Fists

Cataclysm
Starburst
Sunburst
Full Swing
Retribution
Earth Crusher
Shell Crusher
Heavy Swing
Rock Crusher

Slice
Guillotine
Spiral Hell
Spinning Scythe
Vorpal Scythe
Infernal Scythe
Cross Reaper

Tachi: Koki
Tachi: Enpi
Tachi: Goten
Tachi: Kagero
Tachi: Jinpu
Tachi: Kasha
Tachi: Hobaku
Tachi: Gekko
Tachi: Ageha

Vorpal Thrust
Impulse Drive
Raiden Thrust
Double Thrust
Leg Sweep
Penta Thrust
Skewer
Thunder Thrust
Sonic Thrust

Full Break
Iron Tempest
Weapon Break
Shield Break
Armor Break
Steel Cyclone

Spirits Within
Savage Blade
Vorpal Blade
Shining Blade
Seraph Blade
Circle Blade
Sanguine Blade
Red Lotus Blade
Swift Blade
Fast Blade

Hexa Strike
Black Halo
Brainshaker
Judgment
Skullbreaker
True Strike
Shining Strike
Seraph Strike
Flash Nova

Provoke
Enmity Douse
Chi Blast
Modus Veritas
Tomahawk
Angon
Shield Bash
Flame Breath
Lightning Breath
Thunder Shot
Hydro Breath
Shadowbind

Avatars:
Chaotic Strike
Meteor Strike
Nether Blast
Aero II
Heavenly Strike
Rush
Claw
Poison Nails
Meteorite
Holy Mist
Geocrush
Moonlit Charge
Thunder IV
Barracuda Dive
Tidal Roar?
Punch

Hmm... maybe the Tier 5s are a myth. Looks like Aero V is the only one that made the cut this time. Downside is, because people actually cast Tier 5s I can't really search through my logs for them easily. Forever a legend!

**Mafai** · 2011-11-21 15:36

How are you searching? Can't you just do "starts casting Spell V on Mob"?

**Slycer** · 2011-11-21 16:02

It's also noteworthy that as best I can tell, Blizzaja was not added as a proc (so likely Thundaja won't be either), even though the previous -ja (<= lv 90) spells all are.

Updated sheet with confirmations from above information, nothing new:

http://bit.ly/voidwatch

My theory was always that Libra was meant to be a proc but does not work properly. I've definitely witnessed firsthand instances where Modus Veritas does not proc even when it sticks and SCH abilities message is present.

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-11-21 16:22

Originally Posted by Mafai

How are you searching? Can't you just do "starts casting Spell V on Mob"?

Yeah, but if it's something like Aero V that people nuke with on Pil, I'm going to get a lot of negatives before I find the one in all the Pil fights I've done that I thought was a proc (if it was even a Pil fight). If I'm on a transatlantic flight again with nothing to do, I'll look back at it for sure.

**Tomiko** · 2011-11-24 02:01

I can confirm Lunar Cry as a weakness, got it today when fighting Kaggen. No SS since I didn't know it was unconfirmed.

**ccf** · 2011-11-24 03:47

Hmm I guess I didn't know Ichi elemental spells can be triggers (spamming more I guess from now on, my poor gil on buying those tools), any enfeeble nin spells being triggers?

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