FINAL FANTASY XI Job Adjustmentｓ Manifesto

[SephYuyX]

lolBST

I would love to full time charm stuff, ive always been against jugs, but who cares if we can charm more things when theyre crap?

Yeah, the current jugs are bad ass, but id rather be able to charm an IT mob I find wandering about, and not lose it after 2 minutes.

The current charm formula is shit, even with loads of chr and charm+ gear if you manage to charm an IT mob it only sticks around for a few minutes. If you want to make it hard to charm an IT++ mob, thats fine, but the amount of time to keep it claimed needs to be extended by a great deal. Charm+ should play a role in the ability to charm a mob, not soley the duration. My BST has near full Charm+ gear, but even when I do manage to claim an IT mob, it still only last for a couple of minutes. CHR and Charm+ should work together, not seperatly.

Make job traits where you can charm different mob familys, maybe have undead or beastmen @ 99, and that would be fun as hell. Make a ja where you can control an enemies TP move (or something) regardless if it's a normal mob or H/NM. I understand that SE wouldnt want BSTs to charm H/NMs, but BST should have some sort of influence over them.

[Manque]

I wish to echo the qqthf. Our JA are being spread out? Bah!

[Crysten]

You maybe onto something. Maybe increase enmity cap specifically for PLD and leave everyone else with lower cap.

Then your DDs can go all out batshit crazy with absolutely no fear of repercussion, as long as your PLD is at least semi decent.

The best idea I heard to fix PLD was mentioned by someone here a while ago - give them an ability akin to FFIV's cover, where they can actively choose to take all damage from a party member at the cost of not attacking. It was reposted on the Official Forum somewhere but I'm not entirely sure where.

[NynJa]

Why do the RNG projected adjustments NOT include "Dead Aim will be modified to work on weaponskills"?!?

[Ksandra]

We need Bahamut

NO!


The day they give os bahamut means the day they stop updating ffxi, you know it's true!


Also, glad they're going to at least make rdm useful again (hopefully) with enfeeblings, but like others said, give us our enhancements back too. ;_;

[Gokku]

o Adding a new effect to Boost that increases Chakra's effectiveness or makes Chakra's HP-recovery bonus gradually increase by level.
o Adding a new effect to Chi Blast that reduces an enemy's TP.

both the chakra things are fairly great ideas with little room to fuck up since you could macro af1 gloves then af2 for chakra after boost. chiblast kinda lack luster but they did make mention of upping counters effectiveness so there's always hope in either being able to break the counter cap or they could tie perfect counter into counterstance and treat it like seigan/third eye.

[Sho]

Why do the RNG projected adjustments NOT include "Dead Aim will be modified to work on weaponskills"?!?

The only RNG post that makes sense! Anyways, new endgame will be all about RNG, SAMs and WARs. Fuck the rest of you and your jobs. :O

The DRK adjustment might have potential. I mean, what else can SE do to make DRK more formidable anyways?

[Draylo]

lol @ everyone saying omg yay this avatar or this ability whyyyyyy...they're all examples of POSSIBLE changes, not definite changes

We're just discussing the potential changes.. What else would you rather, nobody talked about anything?

[Cail]

We're just discussing the potential changes.. What else would you rather, nobody talked about anything?

Because some people read this and think and say OMG we're definitely getting screwed or getting over buffed or are getting new avatars and they told us which ones!!!11`1! These are just possibilities, but some people take them as to be written in stone, and I find that funny

[Jem]

The only RNG post that makes sense! Anyways, new endgame will be all about RNG, SAMs and WARs. Fuck the rest of you and your jobs. :O

The DRK adjustment might have potential. I mean, what else can SE do to make DRK more formidable anyways?

They could make it +Damage Taken for +% Damage and/or +% Weapon Skill Damage.

EDIT: MP wise, they could give us an ability that drains MP but makes all our melee swings be classed as magic damage or Twilight Scythe-esque damage. Make it so the MP drain is excessive so can't just be kept on by having perma refresh or a couple of bits of refresh gear.

[calinz]

Because some people read this and think and say OMG we're definitely getting screwed or getting over buffed or are getting new avatars and they told us which ones!!!11`1! These are just possibilities, but some people take them as to be written in stone, and I find that funny

Indeed, not only do people take these as written in stone, but they will also be butthurt if those changes do not get implemented. Especially the avatar bit.

[Eldelphia]

I don't want Bahamut or Phoenix but I'm not surprised at Atomos. I'm kinda surprised at Cait Sith. I doubt SE would post avatar names unless they were pretty damn sure. WHM's JA are pretty much ramming home the fact that SE would like WHM to use Divine Caress. I guess their magical defense buff will be the alternative to Shell VI.

I forsee some serious QQing from WHMs and BLMs over SCH 90+. I have a feeling SE really doesn't want to give up on SCH. It is an amazing job and I can see SE going too far to push it to the players. I hope they make RDM playable again...

BLMs seem kinda 'meh' but honestly, what more can you do with BLM?

[Arkanna]

I really like the possible changes to RNG they listed. At least they seem to realize that enmity gain/moving the mob are RNG's biggest problems. Dead Aim working on WS's might be a bit broken, Jishnu's Radiance would be ridiculous ........ but fun!!

[Marcicus]

lol oh warriyuh, how glad I am I leveled you all those years ago.

[Dimmauk]

Unless those DRK changes are majorly different/better to how they worded them I'll be so pissed. WAR are getting +15-25% damage increase versus certain mobs, SAM get straight up increase in Weapon Skill Damage and DRK get increased magical/ele WS damage? And depending on how that TP into damage thing works, realistically it would have to add 400-500+ per swing to match other jobs dropping 2.5k+ WS'es.

Granted that is extremely premature QQ'ing but I really can't see how this is going to go well for DRK. Unless the ele WS damage increase is eight to tenfold or the TP into increased damage is like -X STP or give up 100TP every x minutes for vastly increased damage or something similar.

We can only hope this is a fix for DRK too

Extras
* Additional Planned Adjustments
o Weapon skill refinements

[Marcicus]

i mean shit who needs to level any other DD except ninja for proccing shit, warriorXI all up in this motherfucka

[Sho]

They could make it +Damage Taken for +% Damage and/or +% Weapon Skill Damage.

EDIT: MP wise, they could give us an ability that drains MP but makes all our melee swings be classed as magic damage or Twilight Scythe-esque damage. Make it so the MP drain is excessive so can't just be kept on by having perma refresh or a couple of bits of refresh gear.

That sounds awesome, but I'm almost certain people would complain about the MP drain instead. I think a normal MP drain one or two steps above refresh should be ok. They fixing WSes, so you should be good there. I however have a hard time believing SE wishes to have DRKs deal more dmg than WAR or SAM in any probable situation. Seems they wanna keep up the WAR & SAM > RNG > DRG & DRK > Everything else stigma once Abyssea is said and done.

[Draylo]

I don't want Bahamut or Phoenix but I'm not surprised at Atomos. I'm kinda surprised at Cait Sith. I doubt SE would post avatar names unless they were pretty damn sure. WHM's JA are pretty much ramming home the fact that SE would like WHM to use Divine Caress. I guess their magical defense buff will be the alternative to Shell VI.

I forsee some serious QQing from WHMs and BLMs over SCH 90+. I have a feeling SE really doesn't want to give up on SCH. It is an amazing job and I can see SE going too far to push it to the players. I hope they make RDM playable again...

BLMs seem kinda 'meh' but honestly, what more can you do with BLM?

and why not?

[Dooom]

I don't want Bahamut or Phoenix but I'm not surprised at Atomos.

On the contrary, I'm surprised at Atomos, but not Caith Sith.

Spoiler: show

I always got the impression Atomos was like a really simple "if X do Y" style of AI with no real thought or feelings, whereas Cait Sith is very obviously capable of thought, more complex decision making, and on friendly terms with the player character, compared to Atomos who just "is". If it does end up being Atomos, I'd like to know how you end up getting it on "your side", so to speak.

[Clash Perez]

WAR & SAM > RNG > DRG & DRK > Everything else

You forgot MNK.

More like WAR & MNK > SAM > RNG > DRG & DRK.

After the recent updates, it could be WAR & MNK & SAM, /shrug.