Fall 2011 Anime thread

[Elcura]

Holy shit I can't wait for tomorrow.

[Kaylia]

It's disappointing, but I wondering if I can remain hopeful that it won't be a tsundere loli fest.

Probably not. I give them two seasons before it degenerate into that.


My only relief is that they want to continue with original animation (and that's generally a good thing for anime), but their argument make no sense. "There isnt enough manga with a wide appeal, so we are going to make original adaptation directed at Otaku". Why can't they just make original adaptation that have a wide appeal? If studio Ghibli can pull it off, they should be able to do it as well.

[Silenka]

Wasn't Fractale in the Noitamina slot? we all remember how that went...

[Kaylia]

It was, but I wouldn't say it fit in the "loli fest" category.


Obviously, it depends of your definition, but I didn't get the impression they were trying to cater to a specific type of otaku. At least, not the way show like Strike Witch, Hidan no Aria and the like do.

[Vaspinne]

Persona 4 - E7: High-larious. Most entertaining episode so far, and by far, which says a lot, lol.

[Silenka]

I mean it was said that Fractale's style looked a lot like Ghibli's...and it bombed big time, no one really liked it for various reasons. It had great potential but fucked it all up. Basically, just cause it's in noitamina slot doesn't automatically mean it's gonna be gold, and they probably figure they may as well make as much $$ as they can instead of staking prime screen time on stuff no one ends up watching. =/ It's the blockbuster vs indie film mentality. You put enough lolis/boobs in it, you bet you will get a lot of otaku viewers.

I'd prefer quality stuff over rehashed crap any day, though. Needs more really original stuff like Katanagatari or Madoka.

[Zilong]

fractale's great failure comes mostly from overhype, since the director Yamamoto Yutaka declared that shit as his magnum opus and whatnot.

although it didn't help it came out in the same season as Madoka, where it's just Urobuchi Gen being Urobuchi Gen with Shaft backing it up, and that kinda ended up being closer to a masterpiece than fractale could ever hope to be.

[Kaylia]

I mean it was said that Fractale's style looked a lot like Ghibli's...and it bombed big time, no one really liked it for various reasons. It had great potential but fucked it all up. Basically, just cause it's in noitamina slot doesn't automatically mean it's gonna be gold, and they probably figure they may as well make as much $$ as they can instead of staking prime screen time on stuff no one ends up watching. =/ It's the blockbuster vs indie film mentality. You put enough lolis/boobs in it, you bet you will get a lot of otaku viewers.

I'd prefer quality stuff over rehashed crap any day, though. Needs more really original stuff like Katanagatari or Madoka.

I think Fractale first mistake was to stray away from the colorful and lighthearted adventure most people expected. I enjoyed that show more than most, but I still have trouble understanding who was the targeted audience.

I understand most studio hate risky projects, but I think it's going to kill the industry on a long run. The market is already saturated with otaku material, and making more of that crap is going to hurt eventually.

[Zilong]

when you got a customer base that'd pay $100 for 2 episode, why cater to anyone else?

[Elcura]

I have no faith in the anime industry at all, so I'm just watching what's good before it all turns to shit. Hopefully later rather than sooner.

[Silenka]

Don't worry, there will always be people who are visionaries and fight to create amazing things. Even if 80% of anime is crap there will likely still be 20% left that turns out good (I don't think we've reached quite that proportion yet as far as major titles go, it's probably more like 60/40 atm). There are also studios that know to produce really quality stuff (Brains Base anyone?) and they shouldn't be going anywhere anytime soon. Otaku market will always be there but there's gotta be something fencing off the loli/tsundere stuff from the rest of anime or else it will cease to be a clear-cut genre (with Rie Kugimiya as its queen, sigh).
Plus much anime is based on manga and that likely won't change, and manga covers so many different topics it's ridiculous... people will still keep making the niche stuff as well as stuff for broad audiences. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Kaylia]

UN-GO

I'm complaining a lot about Noitamina, but if they keep producing series similar to UN-GO, I won't really mind. I really like how the cast is getting more involved in the main plot every weeks, even if the content is primarily episodic.

This episode actually reminded me of Death Note with both detective "fighting" each other passively, and it's definitively a good thing. I'm not exactly sure where they are going with this, but they definitively have my attention until the end

I'm not excluding a possible letdown ending, but this show is steadily growing on me, and it might end up higher than I expected at this rate.



Last Exile
ctrl+c ctrl+v
Weeks change, but my complaints do not. It's not that I hate Millia or Fam, but this series is lacking a sense of danger, or tension. Everything Fam does end up working perfectly, and her cocky attitude always pay off.

It shouldn't go like this. I want to see her fail, I want to see her experience the harsher reality that Claus and Lavie had to face during the first season, but it never happens. I will obviously watch the whole show, but I'm not enjoying it much.



Persona
Hilarious episode, but the shadow was lacking compared to previous one. It's not that I took Kanji's dungeon much more seriously in the game, but it felt a little less ridiculous for some reason.

Oh well..I'm not really complaining tho, it's still one of my favorite show this season.


Guilty Crown
I would complains about tits and asses again, but I've done that 5 weeks in a row, and it's time to give up. At the rate this gap is opening, we should see tits in less than 2 weeks anyway.

The main issue that prevent me from liking this show is that I still don't care about the moral dilemma Shu is facing. I understand that they are trying to make this main focus (and I'm entirely fine with that), but they are not doing enough for me to care. In the end, it doesn't feel any different than what I see in every ahonena (self-righteous main character who solve everything with the power the power of friendship).

Maybe I'm biased against the show like some people said, but I don't know, I don't feel the nuance that I liked about Madoka, Code Geass, or C: money and soul. It's not too far off, but it's not enough.



Chihaya
I don't have much to add, but I still love the show. It might not be as dramatic as it was at first, but it's still progressing steadily, and I'm still entertained by the Karuta matches (somehow)

[Zilong]

only reason you should watch Guilty Crown at this point is to satisfy your fetish for the paraplegic

[Gulkeeva]

Don't forget tsugumi !

[Cantih]

only reason you should watch Guilty Crown at this point is to satisfy your fetish for the paraplegic

Christ.
Yes, Guilty Crown is not as epic as hoped, but it's not as bad as that.

[Kaylia]

only reason you should watch Guilty Crown at this point is to satisfy your fetish for the paraplegic

I think it's a bit of exaggeration since most anime are fucking terrible anyway. This one is just more annoying because of the wasted potential and false promise.

If I had to rank it, it would end up slightly above Index (which isnt that high, but yea.h..)

[Avvesione]

I don't think I've laughed harder this season that at Persona 4 this week. Truly an amazing episode. I wonder if I ever came across that way to Mithras...

Guilty Crown has been improving ever so slightly and hopefully that ending with Shu and Gai together singals the end of this prolouge and now the show can get into a real story rather than this random bullshittery going on now. But knowing my luck, we're going to get another school episode next week.

I'm happy that Taichi did something unselfish this episode of Chihayafuru, reaching out to get a new member. Didn't care for the new member, was kinda sad that Kana was a background character, and Chihaya always makes me laugh. I wonder how Chihaya is always so full of energy and happiness, you figure she'd binge on chocolate everyday before heading to school. That might explain her crashes after karuta games, too...

Ika Musume and Working were hilarious as always but the skits were kinda dumb in Ika Musume (although I like how they toured the town). Mini Ika is always cute.

If I had to rank it, it would end up slightly above Index (which isnt that high, but yea.h..)

So an 8/10?

[Xanthe]

iDOLM@STER doesn't get a lot of talk around here, but I have to say e20 was pretty awesome.

[Kurstone]

/tear buckets
iDolm@aster D: soo good, chihaya.... kurisu-tina

[Elcura]

So an 8/10?

Probably more like a 6 or 7. Index is totally a 5 or 6 lol