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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    We've only seen it used on inanimate objects, so while I wouldn't rule out the possibility it could also heal people, outright reviving them is another matter.

    Anyway, not everyone just flips a switch and permanently changes. A coward doing heroic things doesn't automatically make him a hero. Yeah, the others need Shu, but forcing him to do their bidding would make them no better than GHQ. The fact they're still willing to try without him, however, speaks of their own resolve. Christ, I don't think you'll find anyone who will admit to relating to being a chickenshit, but I think some of you have been so brainwashed by kids ousting adults in media that when a kid suddenly acts a kid, he's a fucking retard and the show's a failure. Meanwhile, the stereotypical idiot American soldier is glorified and praised.
    Of course not everyone can change instantly and permanently, but it doesn't bode well for a show that keeps using the same emotional state to try and bring drama and tension to the show. There could be far more legitimate reasons for Shu's absence than Shu turning into a huge pussy again. Not only is it poorly written, it's just lazy to go to the same shit again. The scenes that followed were poor and forced. Nothing is convincing and I just groan at most speeches.

    Funeral Parlour are fucking stupid because they do stuff that they CANNOT do without Shu's help. Is it weak to rely on someone who's critical to a mission? Perhaps. Is it stupid to do that mission without that someone? Hell yeah. They pick missions they cannot complete without Shu, yet when they need him they act like babies and cry just as hard as Shu does. Not only do they force Shu and manipulate him, but they treat him like shit and he's too stupid to realize it. And the one time where their kindness could be all that's needed to help Shu get out of being an emo (and also solidifying their relationship and making the viewers like these assholes more) they don't do shit. They shoot a gun at him, tell him he's dead to them, call him names and leave.

    These are your good guys, btw. They're just as childish as Shu and no side is trying to understand each other. Go figure people aren't pleased with that and want a fucking adult to show up at some point.

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    Or they really want him to come around on his own. Yes, there may be some element of guilt trip involved, but if that's the catalyst needed to motivate him to save a friend, hell, everyone, would you rather Gai instead just stand behind him with a gun to his head spouting off instructions for the rest of the show?

    For all the drama over him being a pussy, I think an important development took place. Shu expressed his dislike of basically looking into people's hearts, stealing their powers without their consent. He made a decision to not only divulge this ability to his friends, but display it. In doing so, he convinced them to follow him. Otherwise, he could have picked them off one by one and tried to do things himself, but he's thinking more like a leader. The comment from the new baddie about him basically leaving his throne vacant also hints at Shu's leanings. Thrones are for kings, kings often conquer, but since Shu isn't forcing his will on others, he may as well not be a king in that guy's eyes. And while I'm not a fan of the power of love/friendship conquers all, it kind of set the stage for a wouldbe kind king against your typical powerhungry tyrant.

    How that pans out will depend on the rest of the series. Just tiresome seeing, "SUCKED!" every week, only for people to keep watching. Far as I'm concerned, the show could be a lot worse, nor am I calling it perfect as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Or they really want him to come around on his own. Yes, there may be some element of guilt trip involved, but if that's the catalyst needed to motivate him to save a friend, hell, everyone, would you rather Gai instead just stand behind him with a gun to his head spouting off instructions for the rest of the show?

    For all the drama over him being a pussy, I think an important development took place. Shu expressed his dislike of basically looking into people's hearts, stealing their powers without their consent. He made a decision to not only divulge this ability to his friends, but display it. In doing so, he convinced them to follow him. Otherwise, he could have picked them off one by one and tried to do things himself, but he's thinking more like a leader. The comment from the new baddie about him basically leaving his throne vacant also hints at Shu's leanings. Thrones are for kings, kings often conquer, but since Shu isn't forcing his will on others, he may as well not be a king in that guy's eyes. And while I'm not a fan of the power of love/friendship conquers all, it kind of set the stage for a wouldbe kind king against your typical powerhungry tyrant.

    How that pans out will depend on the rest of the series. Just tiresome seeing, "SUCKED!" every week, only for people to keep watching. Far as I'm concerned, the show could be a lot worse, nor am I calling it perfect as is.
    He can't even come around on his own. He needed that girl to help him and his friends to do the rest. It's not any different than Funeral Parlour helping him and it makes more sense because these are the people he's been risking life and death with. Shu can express his distaste of the job/his power in different ways, and hell, he's been complaining about them since the start.

    I like how you try to justify the friendship scene as something good. It's obvious what he was trying to do, it's still stupid and lame and could have been done much better.

    Maybe all the "SUCKED!" comments are there for a reason. At this moment it's just a train wreck that I liked to criticize every few weeks. An example of "doing it wrong" in anime. It has it's good points, but all the good things about it are superficial.

    It's not wrong that you like the show, but you can't justify these actions or characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    These are your good guys, btw. They're just as childish as Shu and no side is trying to understand each other. Go figure people aren't pleased with that and want a fucking adult to show up at some point.
    But Elcura, if characters were able to listen to each other, no anime series would ever get more than 2 episodes.

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    to be fair, most series revolve not only on being unable to listen, but also the inability to actually say something clearly.

    communication breakdown is like the foundation of most of those series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Sounds like somebody should have stuck with Ben-to
    Probably. But I fucking hate Ume so much that she makes me want to bang my head against the four corners of my desk. I hate characters like her and she really pisses me off whenever she's on the screen. Other then that, I liked Ben-To, thought the action was entertaining, the comedy decent, and the premise amusing. Gonna give a try again soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Or god forbids WATCH HAGANAI
    lolno For whatever reason, I never found that show funny. Laughed only 3 times during the first three episodes. Plus harems are a major turn off for me. The only character I liked was Kodaka; he got me to laugh those 3 times.

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    not worth wearing that shit if you don't have the pecs for it

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    As always Ika Musume was amazing please let their be a season 3.

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    My review and final thoughts on the Autumn season of anime:

    http://avvesione.wordpress.com/2012/...season-review/

    Might get some final discussions here before diving into the Winter season which is already underway. Curious to see everyone else's thoughts on the season as a whole.

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    I was largely disappointed, mostly because of the incredible blockbuster shows that were airing over Spring and Summer.

    It's still an above average season though. I'm still looking forward to you playing/finishing F/SN and eventually F/Z, I foam at the mouth every time I find out someone is going to play the Fate series without being spoiled ahead of time.

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    Dunno if you can count things that finished this season (like Penguindrum), but with that included I'd say it was a great season.

    Penguindrum kept me entertained and curious the entire season, and even if the ending had a mixed reaction (I loved it except for 1 thing) I still think it was one of the best in the season. Usually things that start out so complicated, vague and weird end without much explanation or satisfaction.

    UN-GO was surprising, started off interesting then quicky rose to awesome.

    Then you have Ika Musume, Haganai and Working!! which were hilarious and entertaining.

    I don't think I have to explain how much I like Persona, do I?

    Chihayafuru surprised me pleasantly and so did Mirai Nikki, but these (including Persona) need to end before I comment fully. I enjoy Guilty Crown for entirely the wrong reasons, so maybe it should be here too.

    Btw, disagree about best OP and ED. Penguindrum ftw.

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    I liked the Persona OP and the creepy Penguindrum ED. I wasn't expecting Chihayafuru to be so damn good, maybe it they made it a bit more on the drama side (love interests and stuff) but that's just a personal nitpick, I still think it's the best anime for the Fall season. Penguindrum was too random to be considered "great" really, half of it was just out of place and while it was interesting, it just felt strange at times.

    I also don't really get the hype behind Mirai Nikki, it felt like an interesting concept played out rather poorly. The only episode I enjoyed was the one with the toddler who was trying to kill them. That envelope was win.

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    Yeah, this was my favorite season of the year. UN-Go and Penguindrum were amazing, loved the comedy in Working'!!, Ika Musume, and Persona, enjoyed the drama in Chihayafuru and Mirai Nikki, really impressed with how Idolmaster ended, still kinda enjoy Guilty Crown and Last Exile but kinda am disappointed/frustrated with them and Tamayura was okay, certainly not the worst anime I watched all year. Seems Ulmega and I agree on just about everything

    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    Btw, disagree about best OP and ED. Penguindrum ftw.
    ... /unfriend

    No, I really liked both but I watched and listened to UN-Go every week. Can't say that about any other anime. Also, which Penguindrum ED are you talking about? =P

    Also, to Rivero, what I liked most about Penguindrum is that it made you think every week. I like that in an anime. Plus the art style was one of the best I had seen all year. Also, I don't see a lot of hype for Mirai Nikki anymore (except for a few posts on here) but those first few episodes were fun and exciting.

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    Marathoned Un-Go last night, holy shit I had the weirdest boner for Kazamori.

    Really too bad that much like every other noitamina's series, it's probably never getting a sequel.

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    It has gotten a prequel movie however, which is nice to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Really too bad that much like every other noitamina's series, it's probably never getting a sequel.
    Depends on the source material they didn't touch. If they were to do a second season, I hope the caliber of novels they ended up not using for this season are as interesting as the ones they used. If not, then I'm not sad it ending at 11 episodes. If they could've had 1-2 more interesting arcs like the last one, then yeah, it's a disappointment. At least it didn't end like Jellyfish Princess.

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    oh is she related to the squid emperor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avvesione View Post
    At least it didn't end like Jellyfish Princess.
    Man, whatever happened to this? I was enjoying it and then it just ended without warning. That scene where the guy wakes up next to the girl and just freaks the fuck out of the room was hilarious.

    Also, I do like UN-GO OP and ED. But I liked Persona OP end ED and Penguindrum's OPs and many EDs more, though I think in general I just liked the music.

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