Leves after 1.18

[-Ant-]

Operation bloody scales, Wanted: Soft evidence, and Wanted: Violent Verdure (faction, 5 stars) in a 40+ group gave about 11,000 SP with GA each.

[Karinastar]

I can confirm that the bonus from Behest is about 5% of your TNL. At 42, with 78k tnl I was consistently getting 3900 bonus SP from Treespeak Behest. 5-star R40 leves with GA were giving in the 6300-7500 range for end of leve bonus; it varied from leve to leve. Without they were in the 4000-5000 range. Links didn't seem to make any appreciable difference to the SP bonus at the end, though we had at most 3 people on the same leve (leve starter and 2 links). When set to 5 stars with 3 party members, mobs were giving in the low to mid 100s without GA, and the high 100s-low 200s with. I'll write down some more concrete numbers on Wednesday when we run leves next, I didn't notice this thread till after we had finished for the night. However, I have noticed as well that there seems to be caps based on your rank/tnl, as doing the same leve a rank higher seems to yield more SP, even if you're already above the recommended rank.

[goodr]

r26 PUG, TNL@29000
5% of 29000 = 1450

"Just One of the Dodos" (r20), 1 star, GA
- 2x r20 mobs for 49 SP each
- 2160 SP bonus

"The Lady's Bite" (r20), 2 star, GA
- 2x r23 mobs for 64 SP each
- 2281 SP bonus


r27 PUG, TNL@31000
5% of 31000 = 1550
"A Leg Up" (r20), 3 star, GA
- 3x r26 mobs for 72 SP each
- 2160 SP bonus

Camp Horizon Behest, solo, recommended r25
- pairs of r36 mobs for 140 SP each
- single r36 wind elementals for 140 SP each
- pair of lightning elementals for 140 SP each
- 2430 SP bonus

"Necrologos: Amongst Leaves Most Green" (r30), 1 star, GA
- pairs of r30 mobs for 121 SP each
- 2093 SP bonus (did not get the speedy completion message; goddamn misplaced spawnpoint)

"Volatile Vitals" (r30), 1 star, GA
- 3x r30 mobs for 121 SP each
- 2326 SP bonus (with speedy completion bonus)

Faction Leve: "Operation: Bloody Side Up" (r30)
- 2x or more r30 mobs for 121 SP each
- 3488 SP bonus



If it makes any difference, all leves were acquired before 1.18a. Honestly, I didn't expect to rank up in the middle of that experiment, but it was a pleasant surprise.

[Celeras]

Thanks for the post Goodr, but try to include speed of completion where possible. It makes the biggest difference from what I've been noticing.

[goodr]

Sure thing. They all got the 'speedy completion' bonus message, but I'll be sure to note the actual time during the next round.

[Celeras]

Only thing I've noticed about the speedy completions is that if you do it fast enough, you'll get an extra message for bonus faction credits. But I'm pretty sure it also effects the SP boost, just not the message.

R30 leves, both 3 stars, R37 LNC:

http://www.razorbites.com/celeras/r30leve1.jpg


http://www.razorbites.com/celeras/r30leve2.jpg

R40 leve, 1 star, R37 LNC:

http://www.razorbites.com/celeras/r40leve1.jpg

And before anyone asks, time is /echo'd

[Xanthe]

You actually earn a bonus faction credit. Compare the credits awarded to the credits offered when you start the leve.

[goodr]

And before anyone asks, time is /echo'd

Did you just explicitly type that out? On the very unlikely chance it's a macro, let us know

[goodr]

I'm making note of time remaining on the leve by the last second that I can see before it times out. I recommend a margin of error of a couple seconds in addition.

Gladiator r13, TNL 7700

Black Brush Behest, solo, suggested r5
2x r12 mobs for 133 SP each
3x r19 mobs for 309 SP each
3:55 of the allotted 20 minutes (swift completion bonus)
150 SP bonus (1.94% of TNL)


PUG r27, TNL @ 31000

"The Devilet Inside" (r20), 1 star, GA
- 2x r20 mobs for 42 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:30 = 3:30
- 2160 SP bonus (6.97% of TNL)

"Just One of the Dodos" (r20), 1 star, GA
- 2x r20 mobs for 42 SP each
- 30:00 - 27:30 = 2:30
- 2160 SP bonus (6.97% of TNL)

"Securing Horizon's Edge" (r20), 1 star, GA
- 2x r25 mobs for 68 SP each
- (gah missed the time on this, but quite confident it was over 5 minutes)
- 1800 SP bonus (5.81% of TNL)

"Necrologos: Amongst Leaves Most Green" (r30), 1 star, GA
- 2x r30 mobs for 121 SP each
- 30:00 - 22:20 = 7:40
- 2093 SP bonus (6.75% of TNL)

"A Drop in the Pond" (r30), 1 star, GA
- 3x r30 mobs for 121 SP each
- 30:00 - 24:13 = 5:47
- 2326 SP bonus (7.50% of TNL)


Gladiator r13, TNL @ 7700

"Sucking Blood Again" (r10), 1 star, GA
- 3x r10 mobs for 179 SP each
- 2x r15 mobs for 294 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:31 = 3:29
- 975 SP bonus (12.66% of TNL) (I dinged r14 right before I started the last mob)


Gladiator r14, TNL @ 8700

"Culling All Coblyns" (r10), 1 star, GA
- 2x r10 mobs for 168 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:47 = 3:13
- 1050 SP bonus (12.07% of TNL)

"Popotoes in Peril" (r10), 1 star, GA
- 2x r10 mobs for 168 SP each
- 30:00 - 27:40 = 2:20
- 1050 SP bonus (12.07% of TNL)

Camp Black Brush Behest, solo, suggested r5
- 2x r12 mobs for 140 SP each
- 2x r19 mobs for 280 SP each
- 20:00 - 16:35 = 3:25
- 150 SP bonus (1.72% of TNL)

For science, I ought to sit for the duration of the leve timer

[goodr]

Pugilist r28

"The Lady's Bite" (r20), 1 star, GA
- 2x r20 mobs at 34 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:50 = 3:10
- 2160 SP bonus

"Sweet Vengeance" (r20), 1 star, no GA
- 2x r25 mobs at 43 SP each
- 30:00 - 24:50 = 5:10
- 1280 SP bonus


Gladiator r15

"Sand Yarzon Sweep" (r10), 1 star, GA
- 2x r10 mobs at 124 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:24 = 3:36
- 1050 SP bonus

"Treasures of the Smallfolk" (r10), 1 star, no GA
- 2x r5 mobs for 28 SP each
- 30:00 - 27:07 = 2:53
- 650 SP bonus

"Revenge of the Dodos" (r10), 1 star, no GA
- 2x r15 mobs for 90 SP each
- 30:00 - 26:27 = 3:33
- 650 SP bonus

[Black]

R48Thm~2Star~GA
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4266/47111554.jpg
finish in about 6min or a bit more.

[Kurokikaze]

So is it even worth it to raise the difficulty or just plow through them on 1 star?

[Tamjin]

Yep it definitely is worth it to raise the difficulty depending on the leves(I hate any mongrel ones lol). Most grid ones I've done (treespeak / 9ives) give 74xx at the end with GA. None of them usually takes more than 5 minutes to complete and iirc none of the mobs are pass r52.

[Carraway]

Super-duper worth it.

R45 THM, "Preventing the Plague" @ Halatali:
1-star, speedy completion: 4763 SP bonus
2-star, speedy completion: 5326 SP bonus

[Celeras]

Mun Tuy, Duo, 3 leves @R38:

My Fey Lady, 4 stars, Completion under 2 minutes: 4560SP
Orbs for the Ceremony, 5 stars, Completion under 4 minutes: 4845SP
Necrologos, Ever-reaching claw, 5 stars, *1 link*, Completion under 5 minutes: 4560SP

Cant really explain why the Necrologos gave the same amount as My Fey Lady. Stars were higher, mobs were higher, and a link. Possibly completion time, but it was still pretty quick and got the full 'speedy' message.

[edit] Also got 4481 from the Mun Tuy Behest, TNL is 65,000. So more than the previously quoted 5%... probably the bonus from inactive behest sites they mentioned in the notes.

[miokomioko]

I don't think all leves are created equal even though the ranks may suggest it. I think they bumped up the base bonus on some that they felt could be more difficult whether it was because the drop rates of items, distance of mobs, type of mobs, run-away targets/additional pops, etc.

For example, I have got significantly more bonus skill when completing "defense" style leves. (the ones where you defend a location for 5 minutes)

[Carraway]

Seems like a pretty drastic difference, but I know that all of the R40 leves in Thanalan have either 4260 or 4700somethingish base SP at 1 star with GA.

[Celeras]

Yeah theyre likely different bases on a per-leve basis. But I'm also thinking that linking may not do anything for anybody except the person who linked.

[Kurokikaze]

I'm not seeing a difference with linking besides not having to do the leve twice.

[Niiro]

Mun Tuy, Duo, 3 leves @R38:

My Fey Lady, 4 stars, Completion under 2 minutes: 4560SP
Orbs for the Ceremony, 5 stars, Completion under 4 minutes: 4845SP
Necrologos, Ever-reaching claw, 5 stars, *1 link*, Completion under 5 minutes: 4560SP

Cant really explain why the Necrologos gave the same amount as My Fey Lady. Stars were higher, mobs were higher, and a link. Possibly completion time, but it was still pretty quick and got the full 'speedy' message.

[edit] Also got 4481 from the Mun Tuy Behest, TNL is 65,000. So more than the previously quoted 5%... probably the bonus from inactive behest sites they mentioned in the notes.

Bonus from neglected behests is stated in the log along with the speed message and such.