U.S.- Chinese War possibilities?

[Nevex]

Isn't a significant part of U.S. population made of Chinese people? That alone would be reason enough to prevent a China vs US war from ever happening.

[archibaldcrane]

Isn't a significant part of U.S. population made of Chinese people? That alone would be reason enough to prevent a China vs US war from ever happening.

LOL.

The Chinese American community is the largest ethnic group of Asian Americans, consisting of 22.4% of the Asian American population.

Asians comprise 4.8% of the U.S. population.

You're looking at maybe 1.1% of the US population being Chinese-American, and I don't think most of them long for the days of Communist rule.

Also, what are they going to do, get mad and karate kick you?

[Apelila]

The best scenario ive seen for a 'current day' invasion of the US was in the book "The moment after", and it wasn't lead up with a conflict but with 3 simultanious EMP knocking the US back to the dark ages.

Spoiler: show

At the end of the book a general details the attack, 3 sea based carriers in the great lakes, Pacific and Gulf are the launching points. After the EMP takes out the power grid the US is pretty much fucked from that point moving forward, China sends "assistance" to the west coast that is more than likely never going away since the military is crippled/disorganized.

But even that doesn't take into account what others have brought u - China has no current means of mass trasport of troops to the US. At least, none that I'm aware of.

[Nevex]

1% out of 300~ million US citizens is a pretty huge number and more than enough to put a full stop to any attempt at responding to China (assuming China attacks first) with warfare.
One thing is attacking countries like Iraq since the number of US citizens with Iraqi origins is next to zero, another thing is attacking a country where the families of about 30 million of your citizens live. So yeah, it's not happening.

[hey]

1% out of 300~ million US citizens is a pretty huge number and more than enough to put a full stop to any attempt at responding to China (assuming China attacks first) with warfare.
One thing is attacking countries like Iraq since the number of US citizens with Iraqi origins is next to zero, another thing is attacking a country where the families of about 30 million of your citizens live. So yeah, it's not happening.

[Sylvrdragon]

I don't think an uprising of Chinese-American citizens is likely... I think most Chinese-Americans were probably born in America, so I couldn't see them feeling like they owe China anything. I believe history shows that it would be quite the opposite. Other Americans are more likely to attack Chinese-Americans due to fallaciously associating them with the invading force (Just look at how people treat Americans of Middle-East descent now...)

[Kuya]

At this point i'd just suggest the OP go look into international relations between china and the US for the past 100 years and also individually look into the domestic politics of each in the last 50 years if he really wants his story, because most people here don't know shit about China, and they sure as hell know less about international relations. I'd also drop the conventional war angle because that shit just sounds stupid.

[Eurell]

Plot

The film begins with an introductory text about how the USA gradually became (in a fictional scenario) politically isolated when NATO members withdrew their membership, leaving America politically and militarily outweighed by the Warsaw Pact, who are aggressively expanding their sphere of influence. In addition the Ukrainian Chinese wheat harvest fails and a communist coup occurs in Mexico.

On a September morning in the small town of Calumet, Colorado, a local high school teacher pauses mid sentence when he sees paratroopers landing in a field outside the school. These troops, who are Russian Chinese Airborne Troops, promptly open fire when he confronts them. Pandemonium follows as students flee amid gunfire from the troops. In downtown Calumet, Cuban and Soviet Chinese troops are trying to impose order after a hasty occupation of the town. Shortly thereafter, Colonel Bella (a Cuban officer) instructs the KGB Chinese to go to the local sporting goods store and obtain ATF Form 4473, which names citizens who own firearms.

Jed Eckert, his brother Matt, and their friends Robert, Danny, Daryl, and Aardvark flee into the wilderness after hastily equipping themselves at Robert's father's sporting goods store. After several weeks in the forest, they return to town and Jed and Matt learn that their father has now been captured and is being held in a Soviet Chinese reeducation camp. They visit the site and speak to him through the fence; Mr. Eckert orders his two sons to abandon him there, but to "avenge" him. They then visit the Masons and learn that they are behind enemy lines in "Occupied America" (as opposed to Free America, the unoccupied zone) and that Robert's father has been executed because the guns from his store - the ones he gave to the boys - were found to be missing by the occupation authorities. The couple also charge the boys with taking care of their two granddaughters, Toni and Erica. After killing some Soviet Chinese soldiers taking a trip into the woods, the youths begin an armed resistance against the occupation forces—calling themselves "Wolverines" after their high school mascot. Initially the occupation forces try reprisal tactics, executing groups of civilians following every Wolverine attack, in hopes of intimidating the local population and compelling the Wolverines to surrender or desist from further attacks. It is during one of these executions that the father of the Eckert brothers is killed.[1] Daryl's father, Calumet's mayor, a collaborator, tries to appease the occupation authorities. In a side plot, Colonel Bella becomes severely disillusioned by the cruelty of war, but feels helpless to do anything against it.

At one point the teenagers find a downed United States Air Force pilot, Lt-Col. Andrew Tanner, and from him they learn about the current state of the war: several key locations such as Washington, D.C., Kansas City, and Omaha, Nebraska have been obliterated, America's Strategic Air Command has been crippled in a surprise attack by undercover Cuban saboteurs, and the paratroopers the youths have encountered were dropped from fake commercial airliners to seize key positions in preparation for subsequent massive assaults via Mexico and Alaska. Half of America has been taken over, but American counterattacks have halted Soviet Chinese progress and the lines have stabilized. Concerned about nuclear fallout, both sides refrain from using nuclear weapons.

The colonel then assists the Wolverines in organizing raids against the Soviets. Soon after, in a visit to the front line Tanner and Aardvark are killed in a tank battle between two Soviet Chinese T-72s and one US M1 Abrams. As the result of the escalating guerrilla attacks, Soviet commanders now view the Wolverines as a serious threat. They decide to stop reprisals and focus on the Wolverines themselves. Using threats of torturing and killing his parents, KGB Chinese intelligence officers force Daryl to swallow a tracking device, then release him to rejoin the guerrillas. Spetsnaz commandos are sent into the mountains following these tracking signals to eliminate the resistance, but the commandos are ambushed and killed by the Wolverines. The group discovers that their pursuers are carrying man-portable radio triangulation tracking equipment and trace the source of the signal to their friend. Daryl confesses his role and pleads for mercy but, along with a captured commando, is mercilessly executed by Robert.

The Wolverines' morale erodes as the war of attrition takes its toll. The remaining Wolverines are ambushed by three Mil Mi-24 helicopter gunships after being baited by a food truck dropping supplies on the road, and Robert and Toni are killed, leaving the group reduced to Jed, Matt, Danny, and Erica.

Determined to save at least some of their number, Jed and Matt attack the Soviet headquarters in Calumet to distract the troops while Danny and Erica escape to liberated territory. The plan works and Danny and Erica manage to escape, while Jed and Matt are wounded. Though Colonel Bella encounters the brothers, he cannot bring himself to kill them and lets them go. Still, it is implied that the brothers die in the park.

The film's epilogue is narrated by Erica and suggests that the United States successfully repels the invasion some time later. A plaque is displayed with "Partisan Rock" in the background, a rock which throughout the film has been a recurring motif as each dead comrade's name has been inscribed upon it by a member of the Wolverines. The plaque reads:

...In the early days of World War III, guerrillas - mostly children - placed the names of their lost upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so that this nation shall not perish from the earth.






You're welcome.

[falloutboy14]

If you want to learn about China/US relations suggesting On China by Henry Kissinger. He's the diplomat who initiated & maintained relations between the two countries from the 70s until he retired. Here's an article about the book. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/b...pagewanted=all

[Souj]

Obviously, Hu Jintao gets the Cosmic Cube and starts building advanced weaponry.

[Xno Kappa]

Rambo invades China to get cheaper prices for Pork Fried Rice with Chicken Wings. Go!

[Elvis]

I need some help from you political-savvy people out there! I am currently working on an idea for a short story/novel (or whatever you wanna call it). The idea I have so far is that the US and China go to war, and China invades the US. Sure it may be a little like that stupid game Home Front, but the general premises is much different. For now I'm more worried about the politics, because I want this to be a plausible idea.

Here's what I've got in summary form:
China forms new relations with Iran because of the countries enormous spike in demand for oil.

The US, and EU begin placing sanctions on China, condemning it for its relationship with a less-liked country.

Meetings are held in Seoul, and China is further harassed about it's relationship with Iran. The US secretary of state warns of "serious consequences" if it does not discontinue its relationship with Iran.

In defiance, China sinks a Japanese oil tanker (or raids it and steals its cargo).

After peace talks fail, the US goes into a mass media hysteria.

The US and South Korea deploy naval battle ships to the Sea of Japan in order to counter any further attacks

A naval battle ensues, and eventually a US island is invaded. (it is a fictional island).

China soon invades the US mainland in a blitzkrieg maneuver.

Ok so that's the basic idea leading up to the main story. It's basically all about oil and "bad relationships" but I feel as though it is missing something. How do you all feel about that idea? I'm just trying to avoid the whole Russian-American idea because it's so cliche. Any ideas, tips, or refinement are welcome! Thanks!

[Weederr33]

You know it's kind of funny how people try to disprove the idea of a Chinese-American war. Sure modern wars may be dead according to British General Rupert Smith, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe not now, maybe not ten years from now, but there is no denying any of it. It's all hypothetical. If something bullshit like Home Front can become popular by the mass public (whom of which don't know shit about politics) then why in God's name should anyone be blowing the idea of a Chinese-American war out of the water? And yet Russian-American wars are still being written, directed and produced by hollywood and gaming companies alike. Wars now days are fought through politics. As a soldier, I didn't know anything about the Afghan war, but I still fought for my country. Politics are like a teeter tot, which balance on smart decisions (or at least decisions that fool others). My whole idea was to place this war around 15 years in the future. If you were to deny China the possibility of developing a navy, or a more advanced military, then you should probably look more into history and become less ignorant. I think I'll continue with my work, even as an novice as one person so kindly put it. One thing about writing fictional work is the idea of imagination! We are more likely to discover molecules that produce solar systems before zombies are to walk the earth. Yet we enjoy the idea of shooting down hordes of zombies or watching a small group of survivors fend off the undead in movies. My goal isn't to entertain the political nazis out there, it's to relate the reader to a hypothetical situation. Anyway, I'm don't venting. I just want to entertain people, not make them question the legitimacy of war between two nations, of which no one can predict. Thank you for viewing this thread!

[Souj]

I need some help from you political-savvy people out there!

You guys are stupid for giving your opinions about why the war wouldn't happen!

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[Weederr33]

And your point its souj???

[Souj]

And your point its souj???

My point is souj?

[Xno Kappa]

Then what is phone?

[Drex]

I hope you have an incredibly patient editor lined up

[guartz]

It's so unlikely for total aggression with entities that posses nuclear capabilities.

a more realistic scenario would involve a proxy war in the middle east or something.

[shepardG]

To make a good fictional story out of this, your gonna have to make up a good fictional past.