Hate Crime or Not?

[*Shinzon*]

Hate crimes are mostly PC bullshit most prosecutors worth their salt won't go after. Not in my experience at least.

Exactly what I said above. Not to mention that when you start telling people what they are supposed to think, they can easily turn against you.

[Xno Kappa]

And anyone who's ever worked on a case knows hate crimes are fucktardedly hard to prove. Only dumbass prosecutors go with that bullshit angle and it usually results with the defense getting their guy an even lesser charge. I fucking facepalm as an investigator whenever JAG wants to come at me with that stupid shit, it's like dude just charge him for the fucking crime, don't make shit difficult.

[Dimmauk]

Four pages and no death penalty advocates?

You missed my post!

[hey]

Don't people murder people and usually think they will get away with it?

yes, which is a big part of why no laws are really much of a deterrent to crime.

[ronin sparthos]

You missed my post!

Phew, started getting worried.

[solanis]

And anyone who's ever worked on a case knows hate crimes are fucktardedly hard to prove. Only dumbass prosecutors go with that bullshit angle and it usually results with the defense getting their guy an even lesser charge. I fucking facepalm as an investigator whenever JAG wants to come at me with that stupid shit, it's like dude just charge him for the fucking crime, don't make shit difficult.

what aspect of law enforcement do you work in?

[Day]

Prob an investigator.

[Tyche]

Prob an investigator.

haha

[solanis]

[Xno Kappa]

CID

[Dimmauk]

CID

Criminal investigation department, sounds like fun.

[Day]

How did hate crimes work in Army with DADT?

[Uzor]

How did hate crimes work in Army with DADT?

Or brown.

"but, sir, I thought he was a Taliban in disguise!"

[Xno Kappa]

How did hate crimes work in Army with DADT?

Never worked on one specifically for DADT to be honest but my team chief told me both parties usually end up getting reprimanded one way or another as fucked up as that sounds. We don't make the charges, we just investigate, give our case file with all our findings over to JAG and they decide the route for whatever article in the UCMJ they want to charge.

[Day]

Cool. Was just something I never thought of. That's interesting though that both parties got reprimanded.

[Ksandra]

Sad story ;;


I am kinda ambivalent as to whether we should have "hate" crimes or not. I've often heard it as really just lolpress talk to get people riled up, but inside the courtroom it doesn't often fly. If Hiro is right though that those that do fuck up with it can cause lesser sentences then ya that's something that needs to be looked into. As others said, intent is important, but the intent of killing someone who's gay shouldn't be any different than the intent of killing your husband for cheating on you.

[Dimmauk]

Sad story ;;


I am kinda ambivalent as to whether we should have "hate" crimes or not. I've often heard it as really just lolpress talk to get people riled up, but inside the courtroom it doesn't often fly. If Hiro is right though that those that do fuck up with it can cause lesser sentences then ya that's something that needs to be looked into. As others said, intent is important, but the intent of killing someone who's gay shouldn't be any different than the intent of killing your husband for cheating on you.

Women just Playa hatin'. Which is a crime.

[Ksandra]

Women just Playa hatin'. Which is a crime.

LOL, I probably shouldn't have used that example. XD Not in that situation honestly. @@;

[BadKarma]

of course its a hate crime.

[EternityEnd]

Déjà vu.