Republican Presidental Debate Iowa

[archibaldcrane]

I'm convinced. Herman for prez.

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[Dimmauk]

Herman Cain quotes Pokemon song during debates.

People should quote songs in debates more often

"You're at your best when when the road gets rough
You've been put to the test, but it's never enough"

Stan Bush
The Touch

or

"Cause in this life there’s only one winner -- You better aim good so you can hit the center
In it to win it"

Vanilla Ice
Ninja Rap

[Day]

"Mother should I trust the government?"

Pink Floyd
Mother

[Demosthenes11]

I'd seriously consider voting for RP. I know he would do everything he could to get us out of the wars and foreign intervention. I don't think he could ever pass any of the radical shit that he is known for in terms of the economy. End wars and cut the MIC strongly outweighs any potentially stupid random bills he could sign that are only half his power anyways

[Kerberoz]

I'd vote for him simply because it would make for an amusing 4 years. I'd vote for Palin for the same reason. Hail Eris.

[quannum]

ron paul can't make it out of the primaries because he's got an actual philosophy ... and it isn't "whatever koch tells me"

[Plow]

People should quote songs in debates more often

"You're at your best when when the road gets rough
You've been put to the test, but it's never enough"

Stan Bush
The Touch

or

"Cause in this life there’s only one winner -- You better aim good so you can hit the center
In it to win it"

Vanilla Ice
Ninja Rap

Spoiler: show

"Fuck shit ass bitch cunt shoobidie doo wop"

Eminem
Who Knew

[quannum]

rick perry is a mixture of dubya and the brolin's characterization of dubya in "W".

[Eaglestrike]

I'd seriously consider voting for RP. I know he would do everything he could to get us out of the wars and foreign intervention. I don't think he could ever pass any of the radical shit that he is known for in terms of the economy. End wars and cut the MIC strongly outweighs any potentially stupid random bills he could sign that are only half his power anyways

This for the most part. He'd likely only get to do foreign policy stuff. Though I do agree with him very vaguely on the economy about how a lot of shit needs to be changed. I agree with him about state rights, less regulations and foreign/military policy all pretty strongly, which is better than most people agree with the candidate they vote for

[Plow]

This for the most part. He'd likely only get to do foreign policy stuff. Though I do agree with him very vaguely on the economy about how a lot of shit needs to be changed. I agree with him about state rights, less regulations and foreign/military policy all pretty strongly, which is better than most people agree with the candidate they vote for

wtf is wrong with you people

[Zoolander]

Its easy to just say "less regulation, fuck the bureaucracy!" and not really expand on what kind of regulations you'd like thrown out. Screw the environment, workers' rights, quality and safety standards of food & medicine, etc. They're all just designed to slow progress and provide socialist welfare to lazy poor people.

Perry has benefited immensely from staying out of the race, dude is a master cock tease. Get ready for a whole lot of talk about Texas' unemployment rate the last 10 years and his evangelicalism. Another gov from Texas even more insane than the last, this is gunna be fuuuunn.

[Eaglestrike]

Its easy to just say "less regulation, fuck the bureaucracy!" and not really expand on what kind of regulations you'd like thrown out. Screw the environment, workers' rights, quality and safety standards of food & medicine, etc. They're all just designed to slow progress and provide socialist welfare to lazy poor people.

For the most part I want all regulations to be slimmed to make a bit more sense. There is some stupid bullshit about an inch here and such that makes no difference, but they're a part of regulations.

In an ideal world, we won't even need regulations for Workers Rights, because if you go into work and shit sucks, you post it on the internet and everyone boycotts that company. Unfortunately people do not have the ability to do that (out of tardness) so we do need the government to do some of that for you. But a better option could be to add some required school classes that teach you about the "real world" and things like what to expect from a job, the right way to be treated as an employee, what to do if you're not, etc.

I'm not sure who required it of me, but while training to be a manager at Pizza Hut I just took a food safety course. 80% of the food safety course was about chicken and fish, which is on about 1% of the stuff I will be handling. But it's required!

I suppose this is a poor way to look at it, but I think one thing I believe the most in is that a lot of shit needs to change. We have totally swerved off course with things (education for instance) and just need reform all over the place. Ron Paul will bring reform in a much bigger way than the other guys, who will mostly be the same old shit.

[archibaldcrane]

I'm not sure who required it of me, but while training to be a manager at Pizza Hut I just took a food safety course. 80% of the food safety course was about chicken and fish, which is on about 1% of the stuff I will be handling. But it's required!

Damn them for teaching you about the potentially dangerous foods you serve.

Did you want a master class on the evils of tomato sauce?

[Greatguardian]

As far as environmental regulation goes, it's not so much a matter of regulation any more as it is enforcement. When an oil production facility violates the terms of their operating permit, operates without a permit, or plain spills oil into the arctic ocean, the most that the state is typically allowed to do is send them a strongly worded letter. People talk about oil spills like they only happen every few years when you see the big ones on the news, but that's not true at all. A couple weeks ago, there were 3 different, unique oil spills made by the same oil production facility over the span of a single week.

How much was the company fined for those spills? $0. Were they penalized at all? No. Did they lose money in cleanup efforts? That would require there having been cleanup efforts.

It's positively hilarious to see politicians campaigning for reducing the EPA's power to regulate and criticizing the amount of time it takes for the state to issue operating permits when companies just operate without a permit anyways. Straight up, they just don't care whether they have a permit or not. And then when they receive one, they don't give a crap about following it either. State-mandated inspections of energy production facilities are a joke. The "supervisors" on site, who have signed official paperwork stating that they know the terms of the permit and the details of the operation of the plant, don't know a damn thing about what they do and what they're supposed to be doing. They just do their job, which is to run the plant the way the company tells them to and make sure nothing explodes. It's not their fault, but it does make it tantamount to impossible to even find out whether a plant is operating under the terms of its permit or not.

I'd be totally fine with slightly reduced regulation if it meant that the rules that were left were actually enforced, and the state agencies in charge of enforcement were actually given the authority to do so. As is, state employees get reprimanded or fired if they so much as annoy the oil production company that they're supposed to be regulating. Current environmental regulations are nothing more than a joke and an insult to anyone who works in the field. It doesn't matter what goes through Washington if there's no actual change in practice.

[Eaglestrike]

Damn them for teaching you about the potentially dangerous foods you serve.

Did you want a master class on the evils of tomato sauce?

There is 0 fish in Pizza Hut. The only chicken is a topping, and might be the least-used topping on pizzas that we serve. Overall, the class was nice to have and learn about, but it is quite silly I had to learn about a number of products I will never handle. It was an 8 hour class and maybe an hour was truly applicable to Pizza Hut, maybe 2 hours.

[Dimmauk]

Damn them for teaching you about the potentially dangerous foods you serve.

Did you want a master class on the evils of tomato sauce?

Probably way more cost effective to have special classes of each food restaurant? LOL

[Eaglestrike]

Probably way more cost effective to have special classes of each food restaurant? LOL

There were 7 people taking the class...all from Pizza Hut.

[pahnphoenix]

what you don't understand is that domestic policies such as ron paul's (allowing those with lots of resources to do whatever they want) directly lead to foreign policies like ours (wars). the majority of his radical ideas are a total fantasy implementation-wise, and what little he could get done would, again, only strengthen the people in whose interests we fight wars.

get the ideas that ron paul or his ideology can do anything at all to help you out of your mind, unless you already really, really, really don't need help (very rich, preferably old money). both he himself and his ideology are very dangerous.

[archibaldcrane]

what you don't understand is that domestic policies such as ron paul's (allowing those with lots of resources to do whatever they want) directly lead to foreign policies like ours (wars).

Thing is, considering he's very anti-foreign-interventionalist, that's something that the president can directly control. If a president wants to end a war, he can. If he wants to not join a new one, he can (provided there's no invasion, lol @ invading America). These are things that Ron Paul would be able to do as president.

He couldn't do jack shit as far as passing laws, but yeah.

[Eaglestrike]

what you don't understand is that domestic policies such as ron paul's (allowing those with lots of resources to do whatever they want) directly lead to foreign policies like ours (wars). the majority of his radical ideas are a total fantasy implementation-wise, and what little he could get done would, again, only strengthen the people in whose interests we fight wars.

get the ideas that ron paul or his ideology can do anything at all to help you out of your mind, unless you already really, really, really don't need help (very rich, preferably old money). both he himself and his ideology are very dangerous.

So you're saying changing our domestic policies to something different will result in what is...currently going on? I don't see why we wouldn't attempt to change, if we end up in the same place, so be it.