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  1. #21
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Pretty much every single full run I've done involved getting every chest, fully deactivating both devices, skipping a number of mobs, and killing Shaula with maybe 15 minutes left on the clock... and we would get every boss chest except for middle-right blue.

    I've also done a number of speed runs that involve getting 3 chests, deactivating only the south device, skipping maybe a few mobs (?), and killing Antares with probably ~40min on the clock... and while my memory is a little foggy, I'm pretty sure I've got 4 chests from some of these runs... That could be a bonus one from the speed while losing one for not deactivating the north device. *shrug*

  2. #22
    RIDE ARMOR
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    I'm 100% the near right is under 25 minutes.

    I've only ever seen the far right chest when I've done a full clear, but it didn't show up the one time I split from the group to make the run go faster, so I assumed they missed a chest I usually get. If it's not dependent on chests, then it probably requires a mob in each section, because I've never seen it when using the return trick, or fighting Sargas or Antares.

    I've gotten the far left every time I use the return trick for Shaula, and when only clearing the bottom two sections on SP runs. If it's dependent on a mob dying, it seems logical that mob would be in the middle section. I don't recall seeing it when only doing the middle section, but perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention. When I use the return trick, I never kill the mobs near the Sargas room, or south of that last photocell.

    I'll do some more testing when I get back into town this weekend, pending I can drag some LS mates with me, but I'm leaning toward the simpler requirements until I see strong evidence to the contrary. Perhaps try to open 2 gates without killing anything, or open all chests without killing anything.

  3. #23
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Hmm, yeah, we keep getting everything except the far-left blue chest when we do a turbo no-kill run, getting every photocell, every chest, unlocking everything, and killing Shaula with like 40+ minutes on the clock.

    It must be tied to killing (some amount of) trash mobs...

  4. #24
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    Maybe the djiggas? Or maybe the mitetraps? They seem to be the only ones with groupings. My bet is the djiggas since there's only 3 groups (entrance wing, east wing, north wing), as opposed to the multitudes of mitetraps.

  5. #25
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    Someone mentioned killing all of the Puddings, not sure if that had any merit though.

  6. #26
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    I'm pretty certain it's not all of the puddings because in a normal run where we would get that chest, I would end up killing all of them except for the two that are on the path back down and up around to the device after getting the 4th photocell as we would just run past all those mobs.

    The things that would make most sense to me is killing some obvious pattern-based groupings of mobs, whether its the Tainted Lice or some of the Mitetraps or Mun-Tuy Saplings that are arranged in patterns of 4 or so.

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    Where are all the tainted lice? Just that one group in the beginning section, and the ones in section 2? I haven't been able to run it lately.

  8. #28
    the whitest knight u' know
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    There's a total of three groups of Tainted Lice, all of which are on those long prison-room-less paths on the edges of the map with the open cavern space off to one side. One on the first main path south, one on the main path east towards Sargas' room, and one amongst the Cell Mites on the horizontal path above the northern magitek device.

  9. #29
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    Hey guys,

    I was wonderingif there is a limitation on the drop rate of consecutive kill of the same boss. I am asking this because we did a speed run killing Antares and gotten the poacher drops. Right after we teleported out we re entered and did the exact same thing we did before but after killing Antares we got only gils.

    The next day, we did run and defeated Sargas. We got the mages drops. After teleporting out we re entered and did the same boss two more times both ending with gils only rewards.

    So do we have to wait a certain amount of time before doing the same boss or is there a rule to prevent tackling the same reward consecutively?

    Thanks

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    I've gotten drops on consecutive runs.

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by tol View Post
    I've gotten drops on consecutive runs.
    Did you wait for a certain amount of time or did you attempt to get a different kind of chest? 3 just-gil drops in a row cant be just bad luck?

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    I have done repeated (5 or so?) speed runs of killing the same boss (Shaula) and we got one or two robes/tights/tunics/hats every kill.

    I'm going to have to agree on it being some bad luck.

  13. #33
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    I didn't even know gil was a potential reward! o.o

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    the whitest knight u' know
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    I think a chunk of gil always comes from the gold chest on top of whatever potential items may or may not drop. With regard to the chests around the zone, I think on maybe three occasions I have seen only gil come from them. Seems incredibly rare... and shitty.

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sontawila View Post
    Did you wait for a certain amount of time or did you attempt to get a different kind of chest? 3 just-gil drops in a row cant be just bad luck?
    We went back to back to back. Same clear/chest as always. 3-just-gil drops is just RNG rearing it's ugly fucking head and saying... problem?

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    You need to kill the 2 big diremites that Shaula spawns for the extra chest to pop. Figured everyone already knew lol, a friend (who isn't a member or he would have posted) told me people still didn't know on here so figured i'd share

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    Edit: Double post -.-

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    I've gotten the chest killing Sargas, and I rarely killed the large diremites on Shaula with no problems on that chest.

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    We were running through the dungeon for a lower level LS member, and every time we'd get 4 chests at the end. We trained the entire thing, and we did try killing the diremites that Shaula spawned. I agree with what others have posted, it has to be tied to a mob in the dungeon, similar to how one of the chests is tied to that orobon in the stables in the R50 dungeon.

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    puddings.

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