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  1. #21
    New Odin
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    I hate Dynamis.

    Onward with the Voidwatch ep.II adjustments!

  2. #22
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    I'm excited to hear about this update! Let's just hope that SE doesn't make the upgrades to +2 Relic some silly lengthy process

  3. #23
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    The drop rate for all items that enhance relic and relic +1 armor will be unified.
    Certain items required to enhance relic and relic +1 equipment will only drop if support job restrictions are enabled.
    *Support job restrictions cannot be enabled in this way.
    Monsters

    Ingredients, drop rates, and other aspects are subject to change.
    That shit, scares me, sounding like synergy shit >.<

  4. #24
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    The first Dyn change was a mixed bag that has long since grown on me. Will be interesting to see what happens from here.

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    Honestly, I'm a little afraid. If the new armor is good and CoP Dynamises are on the same system, people will spam them and currency prices will drop. That's my main income source at the moment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Honestly, I'm a little afraid. If the new armor is good and CoP Dynamises are on the same system, people will spam them and currency prices will drop. That's my main income source at the moment!
    That's more then likely unavoidable either way. Sooner or later something is probably going to give on Dyn currency anyway. Even so, Relics and Relic -1 are probably going to continue to not be effected by weaknesses so groups that are only after Relic items are probably not going to proc every single mob like those of us farming currency tend to do.

  7. #27
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    im a huge fan of new dyna but this whole SJ nonsense dont sound fun at all.
    Some jobs are just asking to get 1 shotted and take constant dirt naps thf? rng? war? well war should be used to that by now, but still


    and omg fix mob placement in windy and jeuno for christs sake already

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Honestly, I'm a little afraid. If the new armor is good and CoP Dynamises are on the same system, people will spam them and currency prices will drop. That's my main income source at the moment!
    Can always hope relics suddenly become good again with that supposed buff, lol. Yeah... not getting my hopes up for that either.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Honestly, I'm a little afraid. If the new armor is good and CoP Dynamises are on the same system, people will spam them and currency prices will drop. That's my main income source at the moment!
    I don't think so, at least not for a while. Not all that many people have a significant amount of +1 dynamis armor at this point because most of the upgrades are useless. Assuming +1 armor is required for +2, which I would say is basically a certainty, you're talking 25-ish currency for every piece of armor everyone wants to upgrade, say at least 10 pieces of armor per person so something like 250 currency per person. And while maybe one in 50 people (or fewer) might be upgrading a relic weapon, everyone, or just about everyone, is going to want to upgrade relic armor. And perhaps you'll need currency for +2 also, who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    I don't think so, at least not for a while. Not all that many people have a significant amount of +1 dynamis armor at this point because most of the upgrades are useless. Assuming +1 armor is required for +2, which I would say is a near certainty, you're talking 30-ish currency for every piece of armor everyone wants to upgrade, say at least 10 pieces of armor per person so something like 300 currency per person. And while maybe one in 50 people might be upgrading a relic weapon, everyone, or just about everyone, is going to want to upgrade relic armor. And perhaps you'll need currency for +2 also, who knows?
    Good point. I hadn't thought of that. All those upgrade fees would push the currency market up, actually. I have half a dozen pieces of -1 armor that I'm not even bothering to upgrade at the moment because I don't want to pay coins for a shit upgrade. That's going to become problematic though if Sagheera still only takes one piece per week and you can easily farm -1 armors by entering any CoP Dynamis zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    That's going to become problematic though if Sagheera still only takes one piece per week and you can easily farm -1 armors by entering any CoP Dynamis zone.
    Oh god, shoot me now. They better make this JP midnight or, better yet, instant. I could just see getting 4 or 5 head -1s in one good Dynamis - Valkurm run and then having to spend an entire month upgrading them. I'd pay an extra few coins for FedEx overnight.

  12. #32
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    I have mixed feelings about this....I'll just wait for the stats during the update.

    Just no synergy shit plz.

  13. #33
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Yeah I agree there really is no reason to have wait a week for -1>+1 I have like 11 -1 waiting to be done I think i've completed like 12 +1's so far.

  14. #34
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    It tricks your puny human brain into thinking it's lengthy difficult content.

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    Maybe they'll set a requirement to be met like the flies where you can re-enable sj without losing the new droppables.

  16. #36
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    I'm betting that square wants you to run in get all TE's then swap to the no subjob thing and then farm out from there.
    I don't think they are gonna make it so its easy to get no subjob drop items by finding 3 ??? or killing 2 mobs.

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    Oh shit, was waiting for this.

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    I don't expect Relic+2 to be anything special. It's just going to make the few macro pieces that remain among that set a slight bit better.
    I am hoping (I know, how silly of me) that they are going to make at least some of the +2s actually worth getting. There are plenty of Relic Armor pieces that I still use (because I have Red Mage), so I would probably wind up +2ing them even if they are as suck-tacular upgrades as the +1s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Honestly, I'm a little afraid. If the new armor is good and CoP Dynamises are on the same system, people will spam them and currency prices will drop. That's my main income source at the moment!
    Actually, unless they alter the drop rate, currency prices are going to skyrocket. Currency drops are exceedingly rare in CoP Dynamis, unless procing is going to give them RotZ Dynamis proc drop rates, people are going to walk out with next to no currency. Plus all of the increased demand for currency for +1 items if the +2s are actually any good, means much less time in RotZ Dynamis and thusly less supply and more demand for currency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    It tricks your puny human brain into thinking it's lengthy difficult content.
    It is what makes us think that this:

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/9/9...escription.png

    is worth changing into this:

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/e/e...escription.png

    For the love of fuck, that is terrible.

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    Whatever Septimus. You're going to be the jealous one on Sunday when I finish turning my:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/8/8...escription.png
    into:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/1/1...escription.png

    I bet they give it another 20 HP and 2 Attack for the +2 version. It's my cure forc... oh wait.

  20. #40
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    I'm just prepped to laugh when all the Relic+2 armor is garbage static crap no one will do :X

    However, if it turns out to not suck, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

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