[dev1024] Job Adjustments

[Kaisha]

Good to hear shit that matters will still resist Para2 out the ass on my RDM.

I can only see myself using the JA if it's a quickening effect, meaning 0 recast time also, which would be handy for shit while weakened.

This update lacks teleport spells for all over the place and new retrace spells for hometowns clearly! Because getting around vanadiel even faster then now would save even more time!

Voidwatch is the new ports, except not limited to one job, and requires people to actually unlock access.




Can someone explain to me why SE insists on adding useless pet-based COR rolls? They should just have all rolls affect them and rework the existing pet-ones to do something less useless.

[Leva]

Re-read it man. It is regen and regain for pets, not Players

oops

[Xantavia]

I don't really get where this is coming from. 99% of the tanks I play with daily are going to understand that it only benefits everyone if they sit still and let me TA behind them on THF. Why would it be any different on RNG, once this JA is added? Do you all play with complete idiots all the time?

I really only do PUG stuff, and they constantly move out of my way. Guess they might be worried that they have to turn off Hasso for a few seconds. But I solo'd most of my way to 90thf, so got spoiled with my fellow just standing there. Half the PUG pld tanks weren't much better when I xp'd RNG. I'd run behind them for {cover}, and they would move to the side.

[Hookah]

You know... they didn't mention anything about Merton in these notes. Unless thats what Kaustra is going to be and they changed the name of it for some reason.

Or sch isn't going to get it till 99.

[Zag]

Didnt read all the pages but did anyone NOT mention all the greain that is in this update?

SCH gives regain AND HASTE from tabula rasa, SCH gives regain from the spell they had last update, cor has TWO regain rolls now, SAM has save tp and NIN has store tp or regain on top of atma that gives regain. I can see WARS, SAMs and MNKs spamming WS like crazy and zerging about anything.

BRD has an addle spell, horde lulluby 2 and the 2nd tier carols also occasionally nullify damage which I didnt know or forgot.

DRk has huge potential now. They have an attack boost JA and they have an absorb spell that steals the mobs buffs. If it works like Aura steal or vor, trunk from blue mage where you can steal jailer of loves boost or something like that from a mob then I can see it being nice.

If its an aura steal that can steal MULTIPLE buffs and dispel them from the mob at the same time (thats what stealing is, taking the buff away) and give all the buffs to DRK... thats a sick thing.


BLM gets meteor at level 99, we knew this a long time ago. Even if comet is high MP, the new JA and manafont can stop that.

WHM got a magic defense boost spell again. Lets get them "legit non-zerg" AV and shinryu kills without brew for the lols.

NIN: the new JA if it lasts at least a min... can skill-up and cap parry easier for NIN using the JA?

EDIT: COR roll is for pets regain...

[Obsidian]

I bet it's substantial and can be cast on other people.

I'm firmly in this camp.

[Cail]

I'm firmly in this camp.

Same...you're crazy if you think it'll be self cast only

[Spira]

You know... they didn't mention anything about Merton in these notes. Unless thats what Kaustra is going to be and they changed the name of it for some reason.

Or sch isn't going to get it till 99.

the new SCH spells have distinctly different names in JP and EN..

Embrava was known as Brave in Japanese, but has since been changed to Aura.

and Merton = Klaustra.

im personally disappointed that they'd pass on FF series convention for the English version in favor of carrying along with the SCHs theme of spells and abilities using words from old world languages like latin.

[Ragnus]

Wait. Wait. So Rng is getting Sneak Attack, and Dnc is getting Triple Attack. Is there really a reason to have a thief outside of just wearing TH gear these days?

[Raen Ryong]

nope

and there never will be

[catfat]

A job that can influence drop rates is retarded design to be honest

[TacoTaru]

At this point, if RNG can get a Trick Attack-esque ability that last 3 minutes, I don't understand why Sneak Attack and Trick Attack both can't be changed to sustained abilities.

[Sylvrdragon]

nope

and there never will be

and there never has been.

[Khamsin]

At this point, if RNG can get a Trick Attack-esque ability that last 3 minutes, I don't understand why Sneak Attack and Trick Attack both can't be changed to sustained abilities.

Because if you give THFs sustained Sneak Attack, you may as well give WARs sustained Mighty Strikes. And boost Mighty Strikes crit damage a whole lot.

[Gwynplaine]

Yep, that's another 5 levels of FFXI for you. Is there anything to do with it?

[Atoreis]

Why would it? Dead Aim doesnt work on WS...

Can I have a link to some test? this sounds kinda stupid, but some prove would make me believe.

[Forte]

Welcome THF, sorry you're so late to the suck party. SMN has been holding it down for quite some time, so you should feel right at home...

[Skylark]

Probably already been posted but I don't feel like reading through 8 pages of speculation.

inb4 Temper is a self-target spell only.

[TacoTaru]

Saw Sparthos has posted this on the official forums. Was it mentioned somewhere COR is going to be able to roll 3 at once?

COR got screwed? The ability to use 3 rolls and a proper XI roll-fix is not being screwed.

[Atoreis]

Didnt read all the pages but did anyone NOT mention all the greain that is in this update?

SCH gives regain AND HASTE from tabula rasa, SCH gives regain from the spell they had last update, cor has TWO regain rolls now, SAM has save tp and NIN has store tp or regain on top of atma that gives regain. I can see WARS, SAMs and MNKs spamming WS like crazy and zerging about anything.

BRD has an addle spell, horde lulluby 2 and the 2nd tier carols also occasionally nullify damage which I didnt know or forgot.

DRk has huge potential now. They have an attack boost JA and they have an absorb spell that steals the mobs buffs. If it works like Aura steal or vor, trunk from blue mage where you can steal jailer of loves boost or something like that from a mob then I can see it being nice.

If its an aura steal that can steal MULTIPLE buffs and dispel them from the mob at the same time (thats what stealing is, taking the buff away) and give all the buffs to DRK... thats a sick thing.


BLM gets meteor at level 99, we knew this a long time ago. Even if comet is high MP, the new JA and manafont can stop that.

WHM got a magic defense boost spell again. Lets get them "legit non-zerg" AV and shinryu kills without brew for the lols.

NIN: the new JA if it lasts at least a min... can skill-up and cap parry easier for NIN using the JA?

EDIT: COR roll is for pets regain...

Cool you edited about COR but you should be edited a lot more...

1. With 80% delay reduction regain is a marginal boost so it hardly helps with zergs. Haste from tabula rasa spell will only helps if you can break cap with it and I doubt it
2. None use regain atmas for zergs and for anything else on WAR MNK SAM NIN etc. ( unless its a mule for stagger )
3. None care about strategy to kill a mob inside abyssea at 95 ( and now too ) because almost every mob is easy and you only care to stagger and TH them
4. Cool you can read and copy info about BRD
5. DRK spell obviously works like aura steal and it drain 2 effects with neither void ( It's all written there so maybe you can't read after all ) I don't know how it is sick too. There is not many situations where you can steal some powerful buff from a mob.
6. DRK ja doesn't boost attack but damage ( Sounds like you think it will boost your attack )
7. If you need brew to kill shinryu now you really need to improve your skill. It can easily be killed now with WHM + DD ( with fanatic and going all out ) and with a little problems w/o fanatics.