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  1. #2941
    Cerberus
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    thanks guys!

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    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    This is a loaded question (and might be better suited for another thread?) but did RDM get useful and did BLM become more than a proc-thing post-90?

  3. #2943
    Burninate all the things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    This is a loaded question (and might be better suited for another thread?) but did RDM get useful and did BLM become more than a proc-thing post-90?
    Rdm still isn't useful aside from its self-sufficiency. Blm is a more important proc thing now than it was before. It's not bad for damage over longer fights though.

  4. #2944
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    RDM has a small number of unique procs and Refresh II is nice since MP isn't quite as infinite in Voidwatch, BLM is still primarily stun/procs. Can't think of anything else I'd use RDM for except Salvage.

  5. #2945
    Pandemonium
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    RDM pretty strong in Voidwatch. A RDM giving the tank haste. Refresh 2 and using NQ enfeebles can be helpful.

  6. #2946
    D. Ring
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    I would only really add a rdm to voidwatch if I had some guy who simply had nothing better. Enfeebles are far from needed, and why can't a WHM cover the DD/tanks haste?

  7. #2947
    Groinlonger
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    Fenrir

    It's nice to have a devoted healer, I guess? Really though proc covering is the pinnacle of RDM usefulness. WHM/RDM is more self sustaining than RDM.

  8. #2948
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    I'm pretty retarded, and I'm certain this has been asked before and I know the answer but I can't remember.

    Can you receive rewards from Voidwatch if you use a voidstone but don't have the appropriate abyssite? (I want to say: yes?) Does this work for Chapter II? Like, I still don't even have T4 pops for Chapter I; can I participate in Chapter II and get drops if I use a voidstone?

    Edit: I forgot BG-Wiki is actually worth reading now, oops.

  9. #2949
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    Yeah they really need to fix rdm usefulness. I don't care about all you naysayers who say it was king way way back when. It has been even a suboptimal choice since 75. Maybe some sort of rediculous abyssea styled refresh. That would be useful enough and really refresh was a large part of what made rdm useful in the first place. Or make the debuffs strong enough to be relavent

  10. #2950
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    RDM pretty strong in Voidwatch. A RDM giving the tank haste. Refresh 2 and using NQ enfeebles can be helpful.
    Any WHM or /WHM in any party can handle hasting... make the fucking BRD or SMN do it if you have one, if they're in the tank party for EA/Scherzo they can handle erase/nas too.

  11. #2951
    Burninate all the things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    I'm pretty retarded, and I'm certain this has been asked before and I know the answer but I can't remember.

    Can you receive rewards from Voidwatch if you use a voidstone but don't have the appropriate abyssite? (I want to say: yes?) Does this work for Chapter II? Like, I still don't even have T4 pops for Chapter I; can I participate in Chapter II and get drops if I use a voidstone?

    Edit: I forgot BG-Wiki is actually worth reading now, oops.
    Yes. You get periapts/atmacites too. You just can't teleport to the fights from the NPC.

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    I've seen some lowbies running around with what seems to be a blue/yellow arrow pointing diagonally downward. Wut dat?

  13. #2953
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehn View Post
    I've seen some lowbies running around with what seems to be a blue/yellow arrow pointing diagonally downward. Wut dat?
    The bazaar of one I saw said Icon freetrial

  14. #2954
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    The bazaar of one I saw said Icon freetrial
    Friend told me that graphic in Japan marks someone learning how to drive (similar to our L letter) and is called 'young shoot/sprout symbol'. Just a little background story.
    Yes, free trial.

  15. #2955
    Lostbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    I'm pretty retarded, and I'm certain this has been asked before and I know the answer but I can't remember.

    Can you receive rewards from Voidwatch if you use a voidstone but don't have the appropriate abyssite? (I want to say: yes?) Does this work for Chapter II? Like, I still don't even have T4 pops for Chapter I; can I participate in Chapter II and get drops if I use a voidstone?

    Edit: I forgot BG-Wiki is actually worth reading now, oops.

    BG wiki is fast turning into the only place I go for serious information.

  16. #2956
    Puppetmaster
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    if you had a choice, personal opinion, would you get an Apocalypse? or a Yoichinoyumi?

    Debating with myself which one i go for >.<

  17. #2957
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    Fazheluo R. Mail. http://www.gwcdn.com/games/ffxi/icon...7b4a008dc3.png
    Got this last night, kinda torn on what it would be good for really. Maybe drg tp? I know its pretty decent for Fudo but i never use sam. Any thoughts?

  18. #2958
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaps View Post
    if you had a choice, personal opinion, would you get an Apocalypse? or a Yoichinoyumi?

    Debating with myself which one i go for >.<
    I'm a DD-tank wannabee so actually Apoc has always had a sweet spot for me. If you like doing damage from the back, Namas spam can pretty much win you a top (or very close to the top) damage placing without pulling hate even for a second in Voidwatch etc. Think of what job you like playing more and what you want from your relic.

  19. #2959
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    Does Pil have insane evasion for melees as well? Because with Sushi on Cor I'm at 584 Racc (11 skill under cap), and only getting 50% hit rate on him on normal /ra's. Kinda sucks having to wait on regain and QDs (and having to save QDs for shield) for WF TP. Any tips apart from putting hunters on myself after miser/tacticianing melees (and should I be hunter'ing them too?)

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    Also are people right in asking for Chaos over Tactician's for VW, and other general DDing? Because I was sure Tactician/Misers would be the best combo, even for non-proccing, pure DDing. But I keep getting asked for Chaos/Misers or Chaos/Tacticians. Is it actually better or is it just the same old case of people wanting bigger ukko numbers for their epeen? Cus if so I'ma tell them to stfu and take what I give them.

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