Random Question Thread XXIII: Neun und Neunzig Luft RQs

[Nightfyre]

Edit: nvm

[Maguile]

Just 6hit like Ukon WARs, you can use sword strap as well.

also, is sword strap the best grip for that if I dont need rose? Better than pole/brave/claymore?

[Selamis]

Are the new high level mobs they added to old zones at a high enough level that a 90 can cap skills on them? Or are they more of an in between point from steelshells and abyssea mobs?

[Buffy]

I'm 8 VNM from 85 Armageddon (Gems and Lanterns in mog), and no serious idea how to play cor. Which atmas if I wanna go shoot stuff in a pickup exp pt? Merc. Kris melee > Wildfire shoot is tentative plan.

[TacoTaru]

also, is sword strap the best grip for that if I dont need rose? Better than pole/brave/claymore?

I use claymore because if I use strap I lose my 6hit very slightly and I can't figure out where to make up the STP at without using almah or chiv+attila.

[Radec]

Are the new high level mobs they added to old zones at a high enough level that a 90 can cap skills on them? Or are they more of an in between point from steelshells and abyssea mobs?

Usually capped out on the birds outside tavnazia, so anything lvl83+ is definitely fine. I don't believe there is a crab in that level range, but can get some in the level87 range around C-10 in mtZ, through the bird camp.

Mobs in _S zones are usually lvl92-94, so while you can cap on them you'd take significant damage.

[cdgreg]

chiming in also on the MDMG dark affinity staff for drain/aspir. Worth the effort.

[Selamis]

Usually capped out on the birds outside tavnazia, so anything lvl83+ is definitely fine. I don't believe there is a crab in that level range, but can get some in the level87 range around C-10 in mtZ, through the bird camp.

Mobs in _S zones are usually lvl92-94, so while you can cap on them you'd take significant damage.

Good to know, was thinking about going out to Dangruf Wadi or Crawlers Nest/Garlaige but didn't know if they'd be high enough without taking too much more damage. Was just gonna sub dnc and bring some -pdt and accuracy gear to work on things I haven't used since 75 cap like staff, club.

[TacoTaru]

There's crabs in Mt Zhayolm that go up to 90 aren't there by the old AoE camp. Or are those just Easy Prey?

[Churchill]

Easy Prey, there are T crabs in Vunkerl [S]

[Selamis]

Well if the skill is low enough, it should still go up even if they're EP/DC under the revised skillup system right? Or is that just for under 30 where you get skill from EP/DC mobs?

[Churchill]

I've got skills on EP in Boyhada for 275+, just really really slow at that point

[dasva]

Well if the skill is low enough, it should still go up even if they're EP/DC under the revised skillup system right? Or is that just for under 30 where you get skill from EP/DC mobs?

The new system you should be able to cap on DC maybe higher en EP mobs. I know fortalices which are lvl 75 can cap you at 83

[Airenn]

I'm 8 VNM from 85 Armageddon (Gems and Lanterns in mog), and no serious idea how to play cor. Which atmas if I wanna go shoot stuff in a pickup exp pt? Merc. Kris melee > Wildfire shoot is tentative plan.

Ok. No.

Do it the right way. Which is expensive as fuck.

Oberon's for Quick Draw
Steel or whatever you can afford for TP gain
Regular Bullets for Wildfire (because bullet base dmg doesn't matter)
2 AGI > 1 MAB

Atmas: Ultimate, Smoldering Sky, Lone Wolf

Sub: BLM is for DMG MAB+2 and 2 AGI, too I think
RDM MAB+2
SAM quick TP gain

Vulcan's Staff/Reaver Grip+1
Melee TP bothers me. Ugh. Ranged TP. It takes like 3 hits for enough TP to Fire Shot > Wildfire.

Rolls: Wizards for MAB if you are trying to put out mass DMG

Generally I'm not so I Tactician's for idle TP and SAM roll for Store TP.

EDIT: I didn't notice you said EXP party. Melee is fine there, I guess -- It's been forever since I've done it.

But for anything else, SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

[Churchill]

Rancor Collar / Critical Hit Rate
Yesterday, I started a Thread on SE's offical Website.

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I Recently purchase a Rancor Collar and I wish to ask My Fellow Warriors the following questions:

1) How does a Rancor Collar stand up to a Breeze Gorget on Ukko's Fury?

2) Can you provide numbers on how close or far apart the gap is between the two?

3) How many points of DEX = One Percentage of Critical Hit Rate?

I appreciate any information You can provide concerning these questions.

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Only one Gamer was kind enough to reply.
Leonlionheart // Server: Asura
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I'll let You know what I know.

RR = 30%, dDex Caps at 20% Merits = 5%, Ukko's Fury has 30% Critical Rate.

That right there is 85%. Rancor Collar ~5% (90%) Claymore Grip is 3% (93%) Rvg Mask+2 is 3% (96%) Zahak's Mail/Trophy Legs/N Legs/ are 3/3/4/ Respectively.
(99/100%) Light Earring can get 1% (100%)

100% chance to Crticial Hit on Ukko's Fury EVER TIME? K.

1) Rancor Collar > All
2) No Clue.
3) I don't think it works like that. It's x amount of Critical Rate for every x amount of DEX you have more thanyour target's agi.

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Can anyone post information to support or refute his claims? If You know the answer to these questions feel free share. THank You.

That guy is generally a tard and likes to spout off stuff that other people have said with some math behind it as the end all, be all to whatever he's talking about.

DEX question, dDEX works as a function and information can be found here: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Critical_Hit_Rate

The only time a gorget will outperform Rancor Collar is during low-accuracy situations or during Mighty Strikes, however the difference outside of abyssea is much closer than inside.

I'll wait for Nytefire to correct everything I've said though because I usually miss something.

Edit: Numbers between the two, you're talking small% range, not something huge like 10% increase. Most questions in this thread deal with the fractions of a % in terms of what's better for gear though.

[Trix]

Does barrage stack with ws's and/or triple shot?

[Buffy]

Ok. No.

Do it the right way. Which is expensive as fuck.

Oberon's for Quick Draw
Steel or whatever you can afford for TP gain
Regular Bullets for Wildfire (because bullet base dmg doesn't matter)
2 AGI > 1 MAB

Atmas: Ultimate, Smoldering Sky, Lone Wolf

Sub: BLM is for DMG MAB+2 and 2 AGI, too I think
RDM MAB+2
SAM quick TP gain

Vulcan's Staff/Reaver Grip+1
Melee TP bothers me. Ugh. Ranged TP. It takes like 3 hits for enough TP to Fire Shot > Wildfire.

Rolls: Wizards for MAB if you are trying to put out mass DMG

Generally I'm not so I Tactician's for idle TP and SAM roll for Store TP.

EDIT: I didn't notice you said EXP party. Melee is fine there, I guess -- It's been forever since I've done it.

But for anything else, SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

I'm not concerned with the expense, I thought Merc. Kris was actually faster for tp then /ra. No Orberon bullets for sale, been checking on and off for a week.

Don't have smoldering sky yet, on the to-do list. Replacement atma? Have Ultimate and Lone Wolf.

[Glacont]

1) How Does a Rancor Collar stand up to a Breeze Gorget on Ukko's Fury?

2) Can You provide numbers as to how close or far apart the ratio is between the two?

3) How many points of DEX = One Percentage of Critical Hit Rate?

[Bigsyke]

Does barrage stack with ws's and/or triple shot?

No, stacks with aftermath though.

[Akairyu]

Savant's Loafers +1/2's "Enhances Klimaform" effect: Do you just need to wear them while casting Klimaform, or is it while casting the spell you want Klimaform'd? wikis make no mention