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  1. #41
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    That Ninja got what he deserved for using 5/5 AF3

  2. #42
    Fuck It, I'm Goin Deep Fan Club President
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    That Ninja got what he deserved for using 5/5 AF3
    But it comes from Abyssea!! It HAS to be good!!!

  3. #43
    They're coming to take me away. Ha Ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringer View Post
    Oh no..... a cactuar voidwatch...... inc. 1M needles
    SE really REALLY wants us to use Migawari/Scherzo/Earthen Armor. Hell, I bet one of the new BLU spells is going to give that effect to >.<

  4. #44
    Fuck It, I'm Goin Deep Fan Club President
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    SE really REALLY wants us to use Migawari/Scherzo/Earthen Armor. Hell, I bet one of the new BLU spells is going to give that effect to >.<
    What mob uses a similar move though?

  5. #45
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    They don't have to gain the effect, look at battery charge. SE can change the effect of a spell if they want to.

  6. #46
    Ridill
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    For all we know, BC could give an undispelable refresh to pots since it always seemed pointless to be the paltry MP returned it was. Either way, I could see them converting Harden Shell to a scherzo-esque spell, but I'd be okay with a Prot/Shell mix for solo, too.

  7. #47
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    The Adamantoise Ability (Harden Shell) that was .dat minned will likely be the Scherzo/Miga effect. I doubt they'd give us Cocoon 2...


    Was that ever confirmed Harden Shell?

  8. #48
    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    The Adamantoise Ability (Harden Shell) that was .dat minned will likely be the Scherzo/Miga effect. I doubt they'd give us Cocoon 2...


    Was that ever confirmed Harden Shell?
    Not officially, but the only other NM I can think of that has a similar looking ability is a Quadav from Campaign. Considering one of the new spells is definitely Thunderbolt, I think we're safe to assume it's from Ada.

  9. #49
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    I'd rather a phalanx effect over scherzo type deal.

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    First invited, last in the zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    For all we know, BC could give an undispelable refresh to pots since it always seemed pointless to be the paltry MP returned it was. Either way, I could see them converting Harden Shell to a scherzo-esque spell, but I'd be okay with a Prot/Shell mix for solo, too.
    Nah, it doesn't give them Refresh. You can test it by looking at the MP restored between two successive Battery Charges. If the only spell they cast is say, Burn, the second one will restore the full MP cost of Burn, indicating no MP recovered from Refresh.

    Magic Barrier is one that works differently as well.

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