Gimp/Confused/WTF Player Thread XXIII: Why are you guys being so rude and angry x_x

[fatty]

alex used to be 2k on valefor, they could have had it for a long time

He's had that for at least a year. I'm sure he's prolly had it longer.

[Bigsyke]

Looks like a guard skill up set to me.

Would still belong in the "confused" category"

[Nattack]

Results of fishbotting. Although I have to say, I'm surprised he/she managed to get the the alex for that on Valefor. Never ever saw any in bazaars when I was still playing, but that is quite depressing that Cibo managed to get a mythic lol. That asshole is pants on head retarded.

you have to be something special to put your efforts into liberator, even if you loved dark knight like a crazed stalker, its just not worth the effort.

[Darkmagi]

What? It's probably the best overall DD weapon in the game when you are able to fulltime AM3.

[Diddy Kong]

What? It's probably the best overall DD weapon in the game when you are able to fulltime AM3.

Is this some kind of troll attempt?

[kamugi]

Is this some kind of troll attempt?

It's the truth, when you can ride the 300 TP aftermath on mythics they become the best weapons in the game, most do anyway.

[Diddy Kong]

It's the truth, when you can ride the 300 TP aftermath on mythics they become the best weapons in the game, most do anyway.

I know, but the way he said it made it seem like specifically liberator is the best weapon in the game.

[Kuishen]

He's had that for at least a year. I'm sure he's prolly had it longer.

Ah. I hadn't seen him a long time even when I was still playing anyways. /shrug

[Darkmagi]

I know, but the way he said it made it seem like specifically liberator is the best weapon in the game.

Nothing beats a ragnarok DRK in voidwatch, besides maybe a Liberator. Hence making it the most damaging weapon in the game if this is true. Not trolling in the slightest.

[Diddy Kong]

And you're basing this on what? If it's parses, do you parse against Kogarasumarus and Conquerors?

[Darkmagi]

Basing it on that WAR or SAM without those weapons(under capped ATK, excellent gear, good players, etc.) generally get within 5-10% at best of a good ragnarok DRK in a standard VW zerg. Change things to be fighting something that you wouldn't cap atk on normally and nothing comes close to DRK. Interested in the actual math of Kogarasumaru and Conqueror in comparison to the other weapons though.

[Diddy Kong]

I have a hard time believing a Liberator will beat Conqueror or Kogarasumaru.

[Darkmagi]

The fact that Ragnarok DRK is utterly destroying the two jobs under ideal circumstances doesn't really put things in favor of those two weapons if Liberator is an upgrade from Ragnarok.

[Diddy Kong]

Except that scythes can't use Resolution, so there goes some ground. Uncapped attack? Not a problem for Shoha. Not as big an issue for Increased Berserk from Conqueror either. Acc advantage you have? Aftermath solves that. Both SAM and WAR will be using much better WSs than Entropy and Insurgency.

[Darkmagi]

I'm pretty sure Entropy is on par with Upheaval, and in my experience SAM has been behind both WAR and MNK. DRK/WAR still has a 15% atk advantage in addition to 50 more atk from traits. AM3 is only OA2-3, so you won't be getting any acc bonus. SAM may cap atk on WS, but they still suffer during the TP phase. This is a huge part of any jobs damage, despite being able to WS more often than normal in VW. You also ignore souleater(on for at least 1/3 of a VW fight, often times fights will be under 3mins though), and the slight attack speed advantage that you are getting from desperate blows even with marches+haste. This isn't even counting the massive amount of gear swap advantages you can have due to capping delay reduction with such little haste gear.

[Diddy Kong]

Good point about AM3, didn't know that, my mistake there. But I'm still not seeing it, considering the only reason you're competing is because of resolution and 35+ acc with ragnarok.

[Darkmagi]

I was basing it off of my theory of DRK being the current top DD(with ragnarok, or maybe 99 caladbolg when acc capped and fulltime AM3). I'm just assuming that Liberator will be better than Ragnarok with a moderately less powerful WS due to how extreme AM3 is.

[Greatguardian]

Put a Ragnarok DRK up against a Conqueror WAR or Kogasomaru SAM and that premise should go out the window unless I'm missing something. Nearly all mythics are OP as fuck regardless.

[Diddy Kong]

And Conqueror and Kogarasumaru are also upgrades by the same factors. Only not as bad WSs compared to the two you'd have to use on Scythe.

[Darkmagi]

How exactly is Entropy behind Shoha or Upheaval at 100TP anyways? DRK doesn't suffer nearly as much from not having to worry about losing ATK gear from stacking a bad mod, add in chaos roll and it's a complete non-issue. All of this is under the assumption of VW and thus having lvl3 aftermath up without the penalty of needing to build TP first.