Test Server Findings

**dasva** · 2011-12-03 20:44

well and I think we determined gun carried over which is higher than 1

**Prothescar** · 2011-12-03 20:48

So much for SE using some kind of discernible pattern. :C

Guess they just decided to make some WSs absolutely suck by not even letting their subsequent hits register as 1.0 fTP.

**Raelia** · 2011-12-03 22:53

I'm starting to think SE doesn't even realize every other WS already in the game had 1.0 secondary hits instead of mirroring the first hit. Gogo mass WS ninja nerf!

Would explain Ukko's strangely low fTP (not to diminish the results anyway) and some of the weirder choices like 0.875 on Guillotine all this time (Edit: And Entropy would still be weaker! lol)

To say in fewer words: Damn SE, you're retarded!

**Koyangi** · 2011-12-03 23:09

What is Quietus fTP?

**Raelia** · 2011-12-03 23:10

Originally Posted by Koyangi

What is Quietus fTP?

3.0 best I know, but dual modded with 10%+ attack bonus based on TP. Spinning Slash version 2.

**Koyangi** · 2011-12-03 23:12

That attack bonus refers to the ignore defense portion of the ws?

**Raelia** · 2011-12-03 23:13

Originally Posted by Koyangi

That attack bonus refers to the ignore defense portion of the ws?

Yeah, same thing within a percent or two depending on your target. At 100tp it's kinda too small to matter but does make up the difference a little between Quietus and Torcleaver on hard crap. But +25 TP Bonus Moonshade helps Torcleaver way more.

**Alistaire** · 2011-12-04 00:19

Is the acc down on a lvl 1 dagger ws the same as lvl 5?

**Atoreis** · 2011-12-04 01:04

Btw if Resolution is really 5 fTP total and 100%STR I'm going to make Ragnarok right away. Its not only best raw damage for DRK probably but also probably best zerg weapon in game...

Just imagine WAR with mighty strikes and 200STR with Blood rage... Thats around 323 base damage with 95 Ragnarok, +45%crit damage. Lets assume 110lv mob and 99 lvl for us thats -0.55 to Cratio so lets assume final pDIF around 2.0

5*323*1.45*2=4683 w/o DA
5*323*1.45*2= 5623 with 1x DA
5*323*1.45*2=6556 with 2xDA

Now thats for really low pDIF and w/o restraint...

For comparison in abyssea (w/o restraint still) it could go up to like 16-17k.

**Yugl** · 2011-12-04 01:36

Let me advance that to SE so that they can nerf it just in time for you to receive your Ragnarok. Btw, 317.

**noodles355** · 2011-12-04 01:37

Imagine if they changed all WS so that the extra hits had the same ftp as the main instead of a static 1.00...Assassin's Charge Shark Bite 10.00 ftp :Q

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-12-04 01:46

Because of how huge damages are when you use a brew, it shouldn't be that hard to use brew with a 5/5 WS to tell the difference between fTP options. For instance, Entropy's damage would be increased by 25% when you use Gorget/Belt. It should be pretty easy to get an Entropy that's outside of the possible range with/without the gorget/belt and confirm/reject your hypothesis. May take a brew or two, though.

Also, THF does not get Triple Attack II. 6682 rounds, 7440 attacks.

**Atoreis** · 2011-12-04 01:57

Originally Posted by Yugl

Let me advance that to SE so that they can nerf it just in time for you to receive your Ragnarok. Btw, 317.

Noooooooo ; ;

317 base dmg? hmmm 133+170+20(fSTR) I assumed fSTR lower than cap a little assuming mob has 120VIT.

**Yugl** · 2011-12-04 02:08

I missed out the 8 to fSTR the second time I ran numbers, so that cut off a few from fSTR.

**Heslon** · 2011-12-04 04:42

Nyzul island question: is there going to be a +1, +2 etc or only straight +5 version? if there would be a +1,+2 etc do we have any infos on stats yet?

**Thoraeon** · 2011-12-04 05:49

Hey, is there info on what magian trials require yet? I have a DA+10 Dagger. The most recent trial is 2720, and I am curious what it turns into and what I have to do. Thanks for the help.

**Colenzo** · 2011-12-04 06:00

Originally Posted by Heslon

Nyzul island question: is there going to be a +1, +2 etc or only straight +5 version? if there would be a +1,+2 etc do we have any infos on stats yet?

probably not, they havent mentioned anything about it yet

**SargentRemora** · 2011-12-04 07:08

Originally Posted by Heslon

Nyzul island question: is there going to be a +1, +2 etc or only straight +5 version? if there would be a +1,+2 etc do we have any infos on stats yet?

There are +1 through +5 in the dats, but who knows how they'll implement it.

**Lyramion** · 2011-12-04 07:24

Haven´t seen it posted yet, how much "." do woe weapons need for 99 ?

**shen** · 2011-12-04 09:20

So I just joined the test server and a quick search of the thread yielded no results as far as I see.

Why does the right hand moogle in my mog house only speak in japanese? =/ I assume its a bug or something, has anyone experienced this?

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