Test Server Findings

[Karbuncle]

Do you guys think they purposefully make new content really terrible (almost all WS's having Attack Penalties) just so when we bitch about it, and they remove it, It looks like they're listening, when it fact they had it planned all along?

I get this feeling

[VZX01]

Do you guys think they purposefully make new content really terrible (almost all WS's having Attack Penalties) just so when we bitch about it, and they remove it, It looks like they're listening, when it fact they had it planned all along?

I get this feeling

I think you misused the word "attack penalty". The only 2 WS that has attack affected by TP is Requiscat and Shun. So far, Resolution is the only one with unexpected attack penalty; While Entropy and Stardiver have the unexpected "first hit TP carries to subsequent hits".
I think Shoha has attack bonus similar to YGK (according to Gobli anyway, I didn't see anyone play with it further).

[Foldypaws]

Never mind, confused GKat with Archery.

[VZX01]

Hmm...
I think Nightfyre got the test result on atk penalty in couple pages ago, but checking down to page 105, I didn't see it.
Anyway,

Studio Gobli approximated Shun has 36~38% atk penalty at 100TP, 18~21% at 200TP, 7~11% at 300TP from limited sample size

Here are the data they've based their number from:
http://kamome.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/...23138088/91-93
Post #91 is shun, post #92 is comparative Jin and Hi, #93 is Exenterator.

[Prothescar]

Just because it says "attack is modified by TP" does not mean it isn't an attack penalty, it is an attack penalty. Plain and simple. It's a pretty hefty troll tbh, someone might think "oh this must mean attack bonus with higher TP!"

Nope. Unless you count a less extreme attack penalty as an attack bonus.

[Colenzo]

so whats the attack penalty at 300% on the 1 hand sword WS?

[dasva]

But if you get more tp you get the bonus of not having as big a penalty!!! Brillant

[ccf]

Katana + GS ws getting a boost! Scythe gets consistent mp recovery, latest from ffxi forum. Guess our testing etc made them modify it, perhaps lower the att penalty?

[Hookah]

I'm a little late to the party here, I've been lost in skyrim for a couple weeks and just spent a couple hours reading this thread, but am I missing something or are they completely changing the stats on some of the upgraded Nyzul gear?

Most noticeably the missing haste on goli body, and askar hands, and the pdt- on goli legs.

[Byrthnoth]

Wait, what? Using SA on Sturmwind causes both hits to crit? Link to proof?

It certainly isn't true for Shark Bite, which is a two hit WS.

IIRC, this is the result of an oldschool test. Someone claimed it and everyone called bullshit, then (Aurik?) went out with his low level warrior mule/Blinding Potions and SA-Sturmwind'd things in Altepa while blind. Never missed the second hit.

And yeah, it doesn't apply to all 2-hit WSs.

[Jimothy]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/471...ight=sturmwind

This is the thread, no real proof about whether it crits both hits or not, just 100% accuracy for both hits.

[Raelia]

Scythe gets consistent mp recovery

No, they're giving it less consistency but the same average, if just to fake doing anything about the WS being shit. If not for Hi-Rez completely ignoring the projectile velocity inheritance in Tribes: Ascend despite the entire forum bitching at them to not have even less than Tribes: Vengeance (which was a total failure for much the same reason) I would call SE the stupidest game developers of all time. Amazingly they are being topped in the 'Completely ignore the playerbase' category by Hi-Rez because that game is in beta and they're supposed to be listening.

So really, I have quite the fuckton of rage at stupid game design lately.

[Jem]

Probably doesn't force crit then. I was just going from memory and only remembered SA working on both hits and not the details.

[Chocobunnies]

Wasn't sure if I should ask this here or on rqt, I decided to try out the test server last night, dl'd all the stuff, but every time I try to go to the test server POL suddenly stops working. Is there something else I have to do?

[Foldypaws]

IIRC, this is the result of an oldschool test. Someone claimed it and everyone called bullshit, then (Aurik?) went out with his low level warrior mule/Blinding Potions and SA-Sturmwind'd things in Altepa while blind. Never missed the second hit.

And yeah, it doesn't apply to all 2-hit WSs.

Oh, that's not strange. Applies to DW too. (And maybe multi-attack as well). If you successfully SA/TA your offhand will always hit as well.

[VZX01]

Oh, that's not strange. Applies to DW too. (And maybe multi-attack as well). If you successfully SA/TA your offhand will always hit as well.

But does it crit as well?

[Foldypaws]

But does it crit as well?

No, but nor does Sturmwind, apparently. So that's not different.

[TummieGaruda]

Katana + GS ws getting a boost! Scythe gets consistent mp recovery, latest from ffxi forum. Guess our testing etc made them modify it, perhaps lower the att penalty?

Most likely removing the attack penalty and then lowering the fTP to 0.75 to work across all 5 hits. Depending on how exactly severe the damage penalty is (Supposedly around 38% for Shun), it should definitely help keep numbers from dropping off too much against high defense mobs and more so with gorget/belts.

[Julian]

Can anyone tell me if there was an update this morning?

If someone could supply me with some polutils xmls, I can do a bit of mining, cause I do not have the test server installed on my laptop. (I might be able to get it installed soon, or even today, but would take a bit)

[Fredjan]

Can anyone tell me if there was an update this morning?

If someone could supply me with some polutils xmls, I can do a bit of mining, cause I do not have the test server installed on my laptop. (I might be able to get it installed soon, or even today, but would take a bit)

There wasn't one.