Test Server Findings

**Julian** · 2011-12-09 09:34

Alright, thank you.

Will still probably get it installed and updated on my laptop this weekend. It makes me think, though. The last update they gave us was last wednesday, and they haven't added anything since then. Maybe the actual update will be this monday? >.> They did say mid-December, so it would make some sense. (I would have said next monday normally, or maybe the one after that, since this is SE "mid", but the lack of test server update just strikes me as odd)

in before today isn't even friday and my head's schedule is incredibly messed up

**Stromgarde** · 2011-12-09 16:48

Has anyone tested to see Requiescat suffers the same damage penalties as Atonement on certain mob families?

**Prothescar** · 2011-12-09 17:11

It isn't spirit damage, so no it does not. The attack penalty never goes above 0% by the way if anyone was curious. At 300TP it's still at least 10%. It's possible that the TP bonus is not scaling properly.

**Toth** · 2011-12-09 17:23

So people now appear satisfied by Shijin Spiral (or at least aren't talking about it) but I thought the damage was sub par? Was there something I missed last week?

**Motenten** · 2011-12-09 17:31

Shijin has been pinned down to 1.0625 fTP. Every gear calculation I run has it a bit ahead of Smite on low def mobs, and a little behind Smite on high def mobs, if Impetus is down. If Impetus is up (and accuracy is decent), Smite wins. Decent weaponskill, nothing really stands out about it.

New info from the devs this afternoon, however, says that Shijin gets an attack bonus. This still needs to be tested.

**fantasticdan** · 2011-12-09 18:14

Does elemental gorget/belt work on all hits for shijin?

**Yukari** · 2011-12-09 18:37

Has the nerfs to Realmrazor hit the test server yet?

**transmit** · 2011-12-09 20:15

Reading skills, i fail

**Motenten** · 2011-12-10 00:51

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

Does elemental gorget/belt work on all hits for shijin?

Testing not fully definitive, but it does not appear to.

**Ratatapa** · 2011-12-10 11:05

Got confirmation of that the LB99 is ?

**Ophannus** · 2011-12-10 14:31

More Stardiver testing please. Amador's test was only a 49WS sample size. It could be 15% for all we know.

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-12-10 14:38

Originally Posted by Ophannus

More Stardiver testing please. Amador's test was only a 49WS sample size. It could be 15% for all we know.

For what? The Crit rate boost? Spankwurster linked you to my post, which was:
* Use Stardiver with a certain amount of crit rate in gear/atma (started at 85%)
* Swap to a dagger and look for a non-crit.
I got a non-crit with 85% and 90% Crit rate, but didn't get one quickly at 95%. So the crit boost is definitely less than 10%.

**Yugl** · 2011-12-10 15:34

I even told you that on AIM Oph! The critical evasion down (Assuming it acts as Critical hit rate up for all melees) is between 5-9%.

**Ophannus** · 2011-12-10 18:46

Except didn't he say that he can't cap 100% crit rate with Fencer? Fencer is +9% crit rate and he said he used a Dagger which means Fencer is borked at high quantities of crit%, perhaps the same is true for Stardiver's -crit evasion% for the calculation of crit rate.

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-12-10 18:47

Originally Posted by Ophannus

Except didn't he say that he can't cap 100% crit rate with Fencer? Fencer is +9% crit rate and he said he used a Dagger which means Fencer is borked at high quantities of crit%, perhaps the same is true for Stardiver's -crit evasion% for the calculation of crit rate.

I can't use Fencer to cap crit rate, but I can use other things to cap crit rate even if I have Fencer. I don't know why Fencer is weird (check its talk page for my tests), but it doesn't matter for this test.

**Cursed** · 2011-12-10 19:51

Anyone have a link to where I can take a look at soon to be released gear?
searched bg and failed.

**Scrooge** · 2011-12-11 00:57

Originally Posted by Cursed

Anyone have a link to where I can take a look at soon to be released gear?
searched bg and failed.

Here, here, and Nyzul stuff is somewhere here. Among other places probably.

**Ophannus** · 2011-12-11 05:19

This may or may not be new but Studio Gobli lists Drakesbane as having a -19.75% Attack Penalty. Say it ain't so SE! The only WS besides the new ones with attack penalties are Penta Thrust and Drakesbane but SAM and WAR get Attack Bonus WS

(((

**fantasticdan** · 2011-12-11 05:23

Originally Posted by Ophannus

This may or may not be new but Studio Gobli lists Drakesbane as having a -19.75% Attack Penalty. Say it ain't so SE! The only WS besides the new ones with attack penalties are Penta Thrust and Drakesbane but SAM and WAR get Attack Bonus WS

(((

?

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-12-11 05:25

I strongly suspect Drakes has always been that way. It has been such a strong WS on paper (without the penalty) since it was released that I was always surprised DRG wasn't running around crushing bitches at 75.

I mean:
Drakesbane - 50% STR, ~+10% Crit rate at 100TP, 4 hits base
Raging Rush - 35% STR, ~+15% Crit rate at 100TP, 3 hits base
They always parsed about the same for me at 75. I was crediting WAR's superior WS gear options, Berserk, Double Attack, etc. but it never quite felt right. Negative-Berserk on WS really explains it though.

(.8*1.25 = 1)

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