Test Server Findings

[Atoreis]

H2H WS is better than Vsmite w/o Impetus so its worth to merit also.
Since this bullshit ODD cant proc on multiattacks its even less meaningful than before.

If you WS at 100TP Veret DD is only active for 36% of your attacks which means its only +10% melee damage. With solid Shijin set your WS will do more than 10% of Vsmite (Probably around 20% or something).

[Yugl]

What value of impetus are you using for calculating "Impetus up: VC v Shijin"?

[Atoreis]

What value of impetus are you using for calculating "Impetus up: VC v Shijin"?

I didnt personaly but Motenten did.
I would guess around 10% bonus from Impetus should be lowest possible with 95% acc. 35% is highest possible so around 20ish% should be avg?
Anyway I havent said under Impetus but for Impetus down.

[Motenten]

Average bonus for Impetus at 95% accuracy is about 33 att and 17% crit rate/crit dmg.

With Impetus down, SS tops out at around 10% more damage than Smite, whereas Smite does about 10% more than SS with Impetus up (assuming decently focused gear sets for each).

Also, after next round of updates and testing (since we know there will be several modifications) I'll start adding the merit weaponskills to the spreadsheets for people to compare. Shijin apparently is stable, and is in the current mnk spreadsheet.

[dasva]

Was it ever tested how accurated the plague was on nms?

[Colenzo]

I see your



And raise you a



Now we need someone who is good at shop to shop the hell out of that.

LOL

[Motenten]

Was it ever tested how accurated the plague was on nms?

Nope. No info on that yet.

[Francisco]

I see your



And raise you a



Now we need someone who is good at shop to shop the hell out of that.

I call.

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[Zag]

leave Tanakaaaaaa Alonnneeeeeeeee (starts crying like a bitch)..

[Sechs]

Anybody checked the reworked formula on Katana WS? How does it come out atm? Worth getting it for people without Blade: Hi to use it in place of Jin? Because with the previous formula it was still better than Jin, at least outside Abyssea, even if not as good as Hi on average.

[ccf]

Anybody checked the reworked formula on Katana WS? How does it come out atm? Worth getting it for people without Blade: Hi to use it in place of Jin? Because with the previous formula it was still better than Jin, at least outside Abyssea, even if not as good as Hi on average.

I think for anyone without Hi, it's almost a must get. It was better than Jin before, and it'll be now, especially when quite a bit of the new endgame is non abyssea related so I would say get it.

[Atoreis]

Update on test server. Someone go test please especially WSs :D Sorry I cant go myself im in the middle of Glavoids.

[Sechs]

Well, from the small tests I did myself on both trash and strong mobs and from the more detailed ones I read around it was definitely like that: Hi > Shuha > Jin (outside Aby), with the differences between Hi and Shuha getting very very small under some circumstances (very tough NMs).
I read they were adjusting something in the formula though, and it should be implemented in the test server update they deployed today. Wonder if it made things the same, better or worse for Shuha.

Since we can max out only 3 WSs I'm just trying to pick up the ones that will benefit me the most. GKT is out of the question atm, still wondering about KAT, DAG and H2H. Not particularly fond of this last one because while it can be pretty good (as Atoireis, Pimpchan and Motenten clearly showed) I'm not really looking forward into gathering a fuckton of often expensive/rare DEX gear, furtherly increasing my notorious inventory issues and destroying the small amount of money I'm saving for other purposes.
Think I'll just rely on my Vsmite and my gimpy Verethragna.
On the other hand my DNC could potentially gain a lot from Extenterator, and same thing for my NIN and Shuha (at least with the old formula...).

[darkhorror]

So who's up for testing these ws's after the test server update? What are bets on lower fTP or attack penalty?

[huckster]

Update on test server. Someone go test please especially WSs :D Sorry I cant go myself im in the middle of Glavoids.

no update on files yet....

no change on moogle trials (15x "." for +4 items, no Emp trials etc)

[Julian]

I dont have test server installed on my laptop <_>

was going to get a new laptop today so i had stuff ready for tomorrow

so no dat mining from me today, sorry.

If someone can grab xmls from polutils, I could possibly run my scripts.

edit: Got my scripts running, just need xmls. If someone can grab the more important ones (like items), post here or pm me them and I'll run it. Other stuff that could also be helpful: ability names/description, every quest-->subarea, spell name, spell description, spell info (under common files), status names/descriptions, title, and key items. I think that's it? >.>

[Darcatvar]

Can we get Ophannus's signature changed? Not exactly work safe.

[Alkimi]

Realmrazer got nerfed pretty bad. Was averaging ~3.2k with it on EP mobs, after update it's around 1.9k. Should average out to be around the same damage as hexa-strike as they said.

Will go back later and see if I can find out exactly what they did to it.

[Jem]

Realmrazer got nerfed pretty bad. Was averaging ~3.2k with it on EP mobs, after update it's around 1.9k. Should average out to be around the same damage as hexa-strike as they said.

Will go back later and see if I can find out exactly what they did to it.

At a rough guess, that looks like a 0.6 ftp mod, ftp carries for all hits. Assuming you weren't wearing gorget/belt.

[Byrthnoth]

The ones that they officially changed were:
* Realmrazer - fTP reduced or Attack penalty added
* Resolution - fTP and Attack penalty reduced, fTP carries through
* Ruinator - Attack bonus reduced
* Entropy - Amount of MP drain
* Blade: Shun - fTP and Attack penalty reduced, fTP carries through

I cannot seem to merit any of the weaponskills up on the test server, and I have none of those open at the moment. It looks like they broke something.