Test Server Findings

[dasva]

Might it be a good idea to actually tp in them then? Can still get 26% haste. Well 27 but who wants to use that stupid ammo

[Dench]

Any idea what courtly measure on +2 bard cannions do? More +stats?

No negative stats and +10 on the mage stats. Not sure if there are any "hidden" effects yet. I am assuming no.

[Nightfyre]

Might it be a good idea to actually tp in them then? Can still get 26% haste. Well 27 but who wants to use that stupid ammo

25% haste is the ideal set in low buff situations, though 21% with Rajas is ahead of anything else (hitrate permitting) if you can't swing Shinobi Ring for whatever reason. Maybe Tiercel in the 21% set if you don't have/can't use Rancor/Portus Collar.

[Atoreis]

Ukko's furry at 100% is less than +25% crit.....

[Yugl]

Check for 15% Atoreis!

[Julian]

Updated dat mining:

http://juliandev.com/ffxi/TEST2011-12-22/

All they did was fix the regen5 scroll to say sch, fixed the typo on Twashtar (but not the other ones lol) and changed the mob list in the last stand a little bit.The script hits all those GM moogles because I used the official server as a reference point, since I didn't have a copy of the test server before the update on this laptop.

[Atoreis]

Less than 20% too....

Looks like 15% at 100TP :/

Gonna test it further but doind a small break now... Fucking Tanaka

300TP is less than 40% Tanaka you mother fucking bitch.

[aionls]

Will Bravura now pull ahead spamming the new ws ?

[Atoreis]

Probably no but they will be close.

Damage on Kaggen is fucking pathetic.

2014 100TP
2396 200TP
1717 200TPTP
1221 100TP
787 300TP

Upheavel is not better tho
1168 100TP
1304 100TP
1868 300TP
1230 100TP

Equip for both is not perfect obviously but its quite good.
Nvm I tink I havent used food for Upheavel (but i used restraint but I will check again)

1262 100TP
2253 200TP 2xDA
1575 100TP
2045 300TP
1419 100TP
1340 100TP

[TheUnspeakable]

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[Ophannus]

This IS balance, becuse now WAR is more along the lines of DRG,DRK,RNG,THF,BLU damage and not 3x their WS dmg.

[Atoreis]

This IS balance, becuse now WAR is more along the lines of DRG,DRK,RNG,THF,BLU damage.

And why the hell WAR should be equal to THF or BLU lol?
Also you are very wrong WAR is still higher than lol DRG and DRK was always close to WAR but ppl QQing made it look like it wasnt. (As 95Apoc I was parsing close to my friend Ukon 90 on stuff like Qilin. sometimes I even beat him by fair margin) THF is obviously much much lower on anythign serious and BLU damage at VW can suck cock (BLU at VW is stagger and debuff anyway).

[Therin]

I fail to see how touching 2.4k on one of the harder NMs in the game (AND outside of Abyssea, no less) is considered "fucking pathetic." Seems like you're just too used to Atmas and are asking for far too much.

[noodles355]

Pretty sure Blu averages like 1.5-2k with CDC on high tier VW. No idea what their spell damage is like, but yeah dont think "blu can suck cock" is very fair. Also if you were beating your Ukon friend by a fair margin, it probably wasn't due to the amazingly under-rated strength of Drk, it was probably more due to him dying more, being amnesia/whatever'd more, or not using food/drinks etc.

Also, late but

All that's left to demystify for DRG is Strafe effect. I didn't see it increase breath damage, add any debuffs or increased nuke damage to the opposing element. Need someone to test in brenner if it reduced elemental resistences.

Wouldn't it need to be "Augments Strafe" for any of those to happen? AFAIK Strafe just ups the Accuracy of breaths. So "Enhances" probably just means more Accuracy.

[InsaniacTHF]

Apoc DRKs are mean in VW. Ive seen them coming close to or beating Ukons (ussually 85s) as well. It really depends on the buffs the party is getting. Ukko's was OP but cutting it's crit rate in half is overkill. And the Vere nerf is completely uncalled for.

[Deader2818]

Im confused, didn't people always say a top gear DRG was up there as far as DDs go and a mythic DRG was basically right behind an Ukon war?

[Atoreis]

Im confused, didn't people always say a top gear DRG was up there as far as DDs go and a mythic DRG was basically right behind an Ukon war?

Thats was more on paper than anything else.

@Therin I hope you joking, highest damage is not avg damage. I can now spike 5800 on Kaggen with Ukko ( I did 5k+ on Pil 3 times in one fight ) but my avg was still around 3k even with spikes like this. Normal avg is around 2500 which is nothing broken when SAM can avg 2000-2200 Shoha with better WS frequency. Now Ukko will avg around 1500-1700 and will be beaten by fakehagun SAM... Also lol at Atma... I got my Ukon 3 days before this patch and never used it in abyssea. Oh btw I saw shoha spiking to 3.5k on Kaggen easily.


@Noodles355 No thats not avg for BLU (1500 maybe if lucky but certainly not 2000) and that doesnt mean shit really. BLU has much lower DPS because of melee phase and spells doing next to nothing on high def mobs. BLU is very good to destruct hordes of EP but on VW it should stop at doing the stagger asap and not dying in that process like 90% BLU I saw at VW. No my DRK winning with WAr on Qilin was because of much higher WS frequency. If you dont have Gjallahorn marches then DRK is just swinging faster and if you have march+minuet then DRK is swinging MUCH faster (at least for 3min of Last resort).

[Sekundes]

Thats was more on paper than anything else.

Most servers aren't swimming in Ryuu drgs. Do you have any real experience with them to be comparing to "what's on paper"?

[Colenzo]

get some minuets or something...

[Taint]

Thats was more on paper than anything else.

@Therin I hope you joking, highest damage is not avg damage. I can now spike 5800 on Kaggen with Ukko ( I did 5k+ on Pil 3 times in one fight ) but my avg was still around 3k even with spikes like this. Normal avg is around 2500 which is nothing broken when SAM can avg 2000-2200 Shoha with better WS frequency. Now Ukko will avg around 1500-1700 and will be beaten by fakehagun SAM... Also lol at Atma... I got my Ukon 3 days before this patch and never used it in abyssea. Oh btw I saw shoha spiking to 3.5k on Kaggen easily.


@Noodles355 No thats not avg for BLU (1500 maybe if lucky but certainly not 2000) and that doesnt mean shit really. BLU has much lower DPS because of melee phase and spells doing next to nothing on high def mobs. BLU is very good to destruct hordes of EP but on VW it should stop at doing the stagger asap and not dying in that process like 90% BLU I saw at VW. No my DRK winning with WAr on Qilin was because of much higher WS frequency. If you dont have Gjallahorn marches then DRK is just swinging faster and if you have march+minuet then DRK is swinging MUCH faster (at least for 3min of Last resort).

Gonna start saving parses for you. On T6 VW Shoha is averaging in the 1500 range vs 2100 for UF. (Ig-Alima mostly) WS frequency is slightly in SAMs favor not 30% like I've seen slung around. Everyone is 3 hitting in VW, SAM has Haga (JA delay), med (JA delay), DA and Iki; WAR has superior DA% and the occational retaliation.